Radar

[tgfx]

1. :o How many radars do you have?

2. And how many radars are to many?

3. :happybanana: What is the range of the small and the large radar???

 

 

 

 

 

Oh ya that is good stuff.....

[j'ordos]

I think one large radar in the beginning and one hyperwave decoder at the end/base is enough, but I'm not sure...

 

The range of the large and small radar is listed in the ufopedia in nautical miles, but how much that is ingame, I don't know...

[tgfx]

so if you have 2 large radars does the increese the chance of detection?

[[stewart]]

The range of the facilities can be found in their UFOpaedia write-ups. I believe Large/Long Range radars can "see" farther than Small/SHort Range Radars.

 

Once you've buit a HWD you need no other radar facility at a base since it's detection is 100% and it's range at least as good as anything else.

 

Some people like to use multiple radar systems to increase their chance of detection. When I used to do this I built one large and several small as space permitted, thinking that a UFO would not remain in the long range area for long.

 

Now, I build a small radar immediately off the lift so I have eyes within 12 days. Once my single large is built, I demolish the small to help create a choke point for resisting base invasions. With one large radar, you will miss the occasional UFO, but not that many, really.

 

If that one UFO is a terrorship, well as I've said before people are too concerned over the effects of terror missions.

 

If it's an infiltration, in my own experience you get countries back, but as far as I know, I'm the only one who has.

 

So the point of multiple radars is to catch the occasional serious infiltration attempt by the bugs. If however you've got a factory building laser cannons around the clock, then who cares.

 

Once you've got your HWD then there's nothing left to worry about.

[tgfx]

I have a base in the middle of USA and CANADA. Would one small and one large radar be enough for the entire continent????

 

 

 

 

uhmmm....

[[stewart]]

I stick one in Kansas. It serves my purposes.

[tgfx]

How many of you have more then 2 radars?

[[[Micah]]]

ME! ME! ME!

 

In fact, I have 6 in some bases.

 

 

Bug off, Stew

[[stewart]]

That'd be why I am the Senior Base Architect of the Xcom project. <_>

[[dipstick]]

HWD are the way to go

 

I had to reload when I wanted to go from small to HWD, I did not see any UFOs. By June (on beginner) I had seen 6 terror sites and 6 UFOs. hmmm, I was losing points hand over fist, so I went back a couple of months, and built a large radar. Hey presto, UFOs!

[AlienKiller]

Try to capture a snakeman navigator ASAP, so you can research him for the HWD. Otherwise your just wasting time and money building radars at all your bases, which will become obsolete anyway. :wink:

[Cpl. Facehugger]

I usually capture a sectoid/floater nav on my 1st or 2nd ship! I just love to use stunrods, especially if you use smoke grenades on him ::.

[[stewart]]

Try to capture a snakeman navigator ASAP, so you can research him for the HWD.  Otherwise your just wasting time and money building radars at all your bases, which will become obsolete anyway. :wink:

Any navigator will do.

[tgfx]

:o So then what do you do when you built the HWD. Do you destroy the radars???? And do you just build one HWD???

[[stewart]]

Yep and Yep.

 

HWD has the same range as long rage radar and 100% chance to detect. As for what to do after uninstalling :wink: your radars, please see this thread.

[tgfx]

:crying: got it. This is good to know. I now have enough money to expand and no more radars. HWD is the way to go.

[AlienKiller]

Another advantage to the HWD is that once an alien ship is detected, it tells you what type of ship it is, and what type of alien is on board.

[Cpl. Facehugger]

And where it is going. And what it is going to do there.

 

Edit: I must say that what you have done to your artificial research tree is pretty intresting stew.

Edited September 16, 2003 by Cpl. Facehugger

[Mark0]

im just woundering if 1 large radar or HWD are really enaugh

if it is, why would we have info about them in base information?

Edited September 16, 2003 by Mark0

[AlienKiller]

Mark0 - I put one HWD at each base, which should be plenty. With radar, even large ones, you would need several to come anywhere close to how good the HWDs actually are.

[[stewart]]

:crying: got it. This is good to know. I now have enough money to expand and no more radars. HWD is the way to go.

Money troubles? Please read this thread.

[Guest Jim69]

Mark0 - I put one HWD at each base, which should be plenty.  With radar, even large ones, you would need several to come anywhere close to how good the HWDs actually are.

You don't need radar with the Hyper Wave do ya? I thought it is the X-Com equivilent of the Enigma, every ship's communications can be interpreted and a position pinpointed.

Edited September 17, 2003 by Jim69

[[stewart]]

One HWD per base is the final goal.

[AlienKiller]

Jim69 - Once I have HWDs I scrap all radars. I'm not convinced that you only need one HWD, so I prefer to have one at each base. I consider the HWD one of my biggest priorities early in the game, just because of how much it costs and long it takes to build any radars.

[[stewart]]

You have to have one at each base. Otherwise those areas not covered by HWD have no additional mission info and the odds of detection are lower than the HWD.

[Mark0]

i remember i used to leave my wide radar and have a HWD in my main base.

but in the other bases i hwhen i used to build them iallways built HWD and that was it.

 

i have no clue why i did that

 

 

Stew is right, 1 HWD is enaugh for each base and building only 1 HWD in 1 base wont decode for the whole world but only around your base.

[Jenny]

I have a large radar site in every base, and a hyperwave decoder in my "main" base (usually Europe).

[SupSuper]

same here. hyperwave decoders in every sensor base are far too expensive.

[Cpl. Facehugger]

Not if your engineers are pumping out 200+ laser cannons a month...

[[stewart]]

He's right the only issue with HWD is that they take like 2 months to build

[Trevelyan]

I have heard that HWDs dont detect extreamly close UFOs... and keeping a small radar helps detect everything...

[SupSuper]

I have heard that HWDs dont detect extreamly close UFOs... and keeping a small radar helps detect everything...

not true. i've detected UFOs damn close to my base only with a HWD.

[Cartesian]

Can we have aa grpahical display of radar coverage on the geoscape? Ie a little toggle so we can turn it on and see exactly where we cannt see aliens.

 

Another thing that would be nice is the eventual radar coverage based upon existing radar technology displayed as one is picking where to put a base. ie a circle is projected onto the geoscape around the cursor when building a new base. one can then figure out to the millimetre where to place it. this idea makes sense, since sites are surveyed before bases are placed in real life, and I imagine the same goes for radar sites. you figure out the best place to put something before spending billions of dollars on it.

[Jenny]

Can we have aa grpahical display of radar coverage on the geoscape? Ie a little toggle so we can turn it on and see exactly where we cannt see aliens.

 

Another thing that would be nice is the eventual radar coverage based upon existing radar technology displayed as one is picking where to put a base. ie a circle is projected onto the geoscape around the cursor when building a new base. one can then figure out to the millimetre where to place it. this idea makes sense, since sites are surveyed before bases are placed in real life, and I imagine the same goes for radar sites.  you figure out the best place to put something before spending billions of dollars on it.

I don't think you can. Maybe Xenocide will have this (hint).

[j'ordos]

 

http://www.xcomufo.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=1610

 

[Jenny]

wahey!