Ion Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 I had some sparetime and made these conceptartsVery quick modells. But please let me know if someone maybe is in teh right direction for this version. Best Regards/Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGold Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hey - I really like the right-most one. I think these are definately a good direction to take. Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Would be interesting to see those being thrown. I think they might bounce a bit funny. The middle one could be used as a frisbee, though. Sorry, being serious, they do look good. The shaping and design do look on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 I also like the one on the top/right. Gives it more flare than the standard ball 'o death. The ring could become the alien prox grenade for v1+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Oh, btw the in-game one could just be a faceted ball, with those details textured on. But what you're working on would be great for the X-Net, which is what all the concept models should be of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4t Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 the concepts are nice. Bruenors idea using the ringed one as a proxy grenade in v.1+ is a cool idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revenant4 Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 You know I had to pop my head in when I see Ion is the topic starter...alright enough kissing a$$...gotta say it gives the alien grenade a rugged, "You're going to die now!!!" look...I wouldn't want to see one of those rolling my way if you know what I mean...as always good work...everytime I see one of Ion's pics it looks like a final draft more than a rough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 And this is a new concept for the Alien Grenade I was thinking Wouldn't it bee nice if you can get the alien grenade to stick to things like walls of a building or something like that. You might have a procentage to get it to stick on the wall. If you could you could scan of the second floor of an building pretty fast and might evenb injur a alien standing on that floor. Just some ideas Best Regards /Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 If you'rre unable to see exactly what this look like you can ask me to sen d you another rendering with maybe just one with a better perspective ;O) /Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 forgoten to tell the polyAlien_Grenade_01 808-Polys first imageAlien_Grenade_02 3408-Polys second image /Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Clu-Zif Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 I really like the latest one... can I get a polly count though... you normally surply them, but maybe you didn't this time because it was too big... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 the latest one is exactly like the first image with a wire cage around it so about810 polys ;O)/Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl. Facehugger Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 It is beautiful! I love it! However, the stick-to-buildings idea will have to wait until version 1+ It is a good idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 looks alien alright i would call that an "alien organic granade" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 An nice visual design, will look nice in the X-Net. It's correct that sticking to walls and such has to wait for v1+, but the spikes/studs are handy for stopping it from rolling after it's thrown. Nice work Ion, welcome back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 thnxguys I'm glad to be back! /Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 THe alien grenade should be like a small sphere on top of a larger sphere, and there should be some alien technology around the middle that could only be defined as alien "rope". Possibly a trigger or a button to 'prime' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 not bad. you are improving. My suggestion would be to see if we can make it not quite so spheical to shave off enough polys to drop this down to about 500 for the ingame stuff. the Xnet should be fine though I'd like to see the tips of the spikes at the end blunted. We don't want the aliens skewering their hads with them as the reach for it no matter how humerous it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupSuper Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 my only comment is... how do you prime it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 This is the latestat your request;O) /Ion the left one 456Polys middle one1400polys Rigt one5600polys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 This is a straight copy of the last one but with textures;O) /Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Clu-Zif Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 OUCH... I love it... especially the very last one, but then again it's the one with most polys isn't it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Sweet looking models Ion. Vaaish, wouldn't we just use a much simpler shape in the battlescape, and texture on the spike details with a bumpmap? The model will be so small that anything over 100 polys would be lost at the zoom level we'd see IMO. But the 5600 poly model will be great for the X-Net, as it's under our 6K limit. :happybanana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 we could probaably do that. in fact how about the spikes pop out when the grenade is primed. befoer that tehy lay flat against the surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 (edited) there are many ways you can lower the poly count with. 1) remove the 4 outdrops on the upper level. you wont see them.2) make the main body less smooth. it could be droped down to, say, 30 polys?3) the lower spikes could come out of the edges of the body, without any detail on the main body itself. you won't see the diffrence.4) the little pludge at the top could be textured, not geomerty. Edited November 22, 2003 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 tnx mikkerbut I have already made it with less polygon.I don't want to sound rude if I do I'm truly sorrybut I've been working in max for 6 years. But ofcourse I appreciate your concern I really do. !! So here is what I made 200 polys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 and this one is just 96 polys Best Regards/Ion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 The last pic will be fine for the battlescape, the texture will provide all the detail we'll need for something so small. You could probably reduce the polys even more, but I doubt we're going to have dozens of them laying on the ground primed at one time anyway, so that's up to you... Can you post the model and texture files in a zip here so either Deimos, Drewid, or myself can take a look at it? I think it's good to go with maybe a little texture tweaking, I'll let the others know to take a look if they haven't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Clu-Zif Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Last one is great for the battlescape... And about the "old" ones, the high poly one... I just love it ... X-Net entry here we go... BTW have anyone done an X-Net entry on the granade yet... otherwise I'll do it, when I'm finished with the homeworlds... (which should so far be sunday for the ones I can do now...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 If it's not in the creative text assetlist as assigned, it's free game. If someone is listed but hasn't posted feel free to PM them about it. Hey Ion, from the looks of it the high poly version is the first choice, on the far right of your pic 'o three. When you post it in the zip format, could you also include a pic showing the various angles:top, side, front, and perspective. I'd like to use that format for the assetlist screenshots, as it's the most informative IMO. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Here it is. ;O) /IonAlien_Grenade.rar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Clu-Zif Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 X-Net entry... "It explodes as nicely as it looks..." Ok I admit I haven't written anything yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurrin Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 (edited) Allo,As a mostly casual observer of the project I'd like to say that the level of artistry involved in this project always impresses me. Like all the other posters, I love the last of the grenades and the original ring concept. I’ve a few thoughts on improving both; please forgive me if the ideas are posted in the wrong area, as they will probably be both creative-text and image related. Alien Grenade: Although the model is going to be simplified for the battle-scape use you can probably still give the illusion of the spikes bellow and button-like object above being important by having the soldier model press the button on the top and push something in on the bottom before throwing it. The button on the top could also serve as a blinking 'armed' light as it lands and rolls around doing its alien-like thing. I'm not sure what the intended functionality of the grenade is beyond being the alien equivalent of the beloved earth-grenade... but perhaps the spikes at the bottom of the unit give the grenade limited control over the direction it flies and/or rolls toward nearby life forms (human, alien, or other?). The blinking light would also make it visually traceable as the player watches it fly through the air and bounce along menacingly toward their troops. Ring device: As mentioned above, the ring device could make an excellent proximity device. The controls could be located on the outer portion of the ring (either flush with the surface or on a small box?) and it could do it's business by feeding streams of polarized plasma/elerium (sp) from the inner numbs into the center where they react and cause the explosion when the victim walks into the vicinity. On the battlefield it would probably just look like a circular ring and then have a small animation showing the two streams shooting to the center before the explosion? It could have a really nice double-coned explosion radius from either end of the ring making it perfect for attaching to walls in passageways. If there is room for the comic element, the ring (made from alien alloys) could be more resistant to the blast and would most likely clatter spent to the floor after it demolishes the surface it was attached to. -NT P.S. Okay, so I just looked at the date on the last posting and realized that I'm almost a year late in the writing... but better late than never I suppose. Edited August 5, 2004 by Nurrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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