Worst..mission..ever - Bad Terror Site Deployment
Posted 28 June 2008 - 10:33 AM
Then I had the most disastrous terror site deployment, I had to come on here and talk about it to make me feel better.
Skyranger touches down in rome for a night terror site attack. HWP rolls off the ramp and is immediately destroyed by plasma fire. Move the rest of my agents into position to exit, deploy a smoke grenade and manage to snipe a sectoid from within the craft. Not too bad so far.
I deploy my decent squaddies from the craft and also 1-2 rookies. My regulars manage to kill a cyberdisc and another 2 sectoids on the 1st turn, so all proceeds well.
I was keeping my sergeant in the dropship along with 2 rookies as I didn't want the ramp area to get too tightly packed.
Then it all goes horribly wrong when a rookie that is still INSIDE the ranger gets mind controlled, and lobs a grenade at his feet. Boom. 2 men dead. Similar story outside where I get an alien grenade in the face, killing 2 of my best troops.
My sergeant is still miraculously alive in the skyranger despite the grenade, so I decide its best to stage a retreat. I get another trooper back to the dropship and decide to wait another turn for my last remaining man to get back.
Yet again, an agent inside the skyranger gets mind controlled and shoots his incendiary rocket at the wall, engulfing the craft in flames.
Somehow, my grenade surviving sergeant also manages to shrug off a rocket and is still alive, despite being on fire and smouldering slightly.
I then bug out with 2 of my original 7 troops left.
That put me in my place anyway.
I love this game.
Posted 28 June 2008 - 11:44 AM
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Posted 28 June 2008 - 12:42 PM
Hehe yeah I just had a classic 'open-the-transport's-door-and-get-reaction-fired-by-a-stun-launcher' on TFTD
I love that, it is awesome.
One of my guys fire at him, hit, he reaction fires with Thermal Shock Launcher. The whole crew stunned. Mission over.
Posted 28 June 2008 - 02:10 PM
Really what you should always do is wait one turn (as suggested by NKF I think) so the aliens move around a bit. On the first turn they will always have full TUs which equals reaction pain
What he said. In TFTD it's a bit easier as you're protected by a door, and apart from a few bugs, you're safe in the Triton. In UFO, you're immediately exposed to the aliens. What I do is to put a smoke grenade at the exit of the Skyranger. It's also why I don't bring HWPs on missions. Anyway, don't make the mistake of throwing the grenade. Just prime, go to the inventory and drop on the floor. When the end of turn comes, it will blow up and the smoke will be enough to protect you in 99% of situations.
Anyway, the aliens having full TUs on your first turn makes sense, because it balances the game. Otherwise there would be the possibility of you shooting down half the aliens in your first turn. Reminds me a bit of the tie-break in tennis. The guy who goes first has only one serve, then for the rest of it they both have two.
Psi on the other hand ruins a good deal of the balance, whether it's you using it, or the aliens. No wonder they fixed it in Apocalypse. I have to say though, the combat system in UFO (and TFTD) is pretty good, though it could use some improvements. Apocalypse solved some, but also introduced others. A good combination of both and a few more improvements would give for a superb combat system.
And I am also still struggling with terror sites. Especially in TFTD. This last one was Lobsters and their exploding friends, and even with all the care I took, in the end there were still two or three left before all my soldiers went down. And for the most part on account of that camper Bio Drone. Didn't even really leave the Triton. It's a shame too, as I had just devised a brand new and pretty effective tactic. :/
Posted 28 June 2008 - 04:00 PM
The first turn where you don't leave the ship is a good time for you to deploy your smoke grenade at the base of the ramp, and perhaps get a few grenades armed and ready to be thrown once you move out the ship.
Recently it was confirmed that the aliens definitely provide a grace period where they won't use their psi for a set number of turns (which also appears to control whether the aliens will actively head towards your troops). 20 is just the base number of turns - although I wouldn't rely on it 100% with regards to psi as it could be adjusted +/- depending on various other factors . In any case, this still means that you should be fine for a number of turns at the start. If you can successfully mount an aggressive attack during these first few turns, you should be able to turn the tide in your favour before the psi starts hitting your troops.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:35 AM
Because I mark every soldier that gets panicked or MC'd with a "-" symbol after his name. And, sooner or later, ALL my troops have a "-" attached
I can't believe I'm just getting really unlucky. More likely, without PSI labs, any soldier is effectively a PSI weakling.
Posted 16 October 2008 - 11:00 PM
Psi Skill does add to defense as it gets better, but certainly doesn't have as heavy an impact as Psi Strength. Psi Strength is a constant for all soldiers regardless of whether they've had any lab time or otherwise. So if that's low, they will get Panicked or MC'd easily.
Marking off units that get mind controlled or panicked is a good method of sieving weak psi units until you get more accurate results by spending a month in the labs. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems is deciding what to do with the weak psi soldiers that you've spent a lot of time to build up. Let them go, phase them out and let them go, or reassign them to guard duty? Hard call.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 11:47 PM
Never did see a need to max bravery myself, but could still be handy if you want to max your stats.
Edited by NKF, 23 January 2009 - 06:38 AM.
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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:04 AM
Granted, I've got a couple panicking in the harder missions, though like 90% panicks have been caused by psionics not demoralization, and this happened a bit ago with a 50 bravery colonel instead of one of the 10 bravery rookies O.o
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