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#1 Darkhomb

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 10:34 AM

Didn't know where to put this but the wiki is covered with spam.. can't you lock the pages so only certain accounts can modify?

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 05:38 AM

I dont think it is posible, we may need to ask Mindstormmaster if the new version provides that. He tried upgrading, but seams like it doesnt work.

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 08:58 AM

Alternatively, is it possible to ban accounts?
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 03:47 PM

How come Wikipedia does this and yet we cannot?

#5 Darkhomb

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 03:54 PM

Speaking of, is it down right now?

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 07:28 PM

Wikipedia uses a black-listing system (which, by itself, it useless unless updated constantly) and in addition there is a vigilent force of users and administrators who revert changes of Vandals and Bots ASAP

I've been searching the Internet lately for this matter, and I've found a "general discussion" page here: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiSpam
Not that useful, but at least it has some nice info

What was really interesting was THIS: http://www.mediawiki...ion:ConfirmEdit
We are using the mediawiki software, aren't we?

Last but not least: http://www.mediawiki...:Combating_spam :D

I imagine MSM already knows about that, so I really don't know what else we could do :/
Btw, what was the problem with the latest mediawiki update?

#7 Darkhomb

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 10:45 PM

Wikipedia uses a black-listing system (which, by itself, it useless unless updated constantly) and in addition there is a vigilent force of users and administrators who revert changes of Vandals and Bots ASAP

I've been searching the Internet lately for this matter, and I've found a "general discussion" page here: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiSpam
Not that useful, but at least it has some nice info

What was really interesting was THIS: http://www.mediawiki...ion:ConfirmEdit
We are using the mediawiki software, aren't we?

Last but not least: http://www.mediawiki...:Combating_spam :D

I imagine MSM already knows about that, so I really don't know what else we could do :/
Btw, what was the problem with the latest mediawiki update?


Yes we are using Mediawiki, and I would love any of the options to be used, preferably confirm edit + blacklist

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:47 AM

We need someone with admin privileges... :P
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#9 Darkhomb

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:50 AM

Yes, or Admin privileges given to a group of people to moderate the wiki...

#10 red knight

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 08:38 AM

Admin access can be arranged, who volunteer to mantain the blacklist?

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:41 AM

can do

edit: that said, it might be good to have maybe two or three admins

Edited by Mad, 05 September 2007 - 10:42 AM.

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#12 Darkhomb

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:57 AM

I agree, a nice group, once this is implemented it wont be as much work, ban the bot, fix what they did and keep blacklist updated

edit - also means I volunteer

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:05 PM

I volunteer as well. It shouldn't be hard to maintain the wiki once the bots are banned.
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#14 red knight

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 01:16 PM

Ok I am sending a PM to mindstormmaster... All 3 had been accepted :)

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:32 PM

Got response from Mindstormmaster, the version we have is not new enough.

If anyone of you volunteer to upgrade it we can give you console access to the server to do the upgrade. Anyone willing to give it a try? BTW, you can add a captcha to the main login page (simple .php script for it) to make it even harder.

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#16 Darkhomb

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:34 PM

I'd be willing to give it a try, but I want to look what all is envolved so i don't screw anything up..

1 do we have a backup (you knew know what can happen in upgrading)

2 what version do we currently have?

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:38 PM

I'd be willing to give it a try, but I want to look what all is envolved so i don't screw anything up..

1 do we have a backup (you knew know what can happen in upgrading)

2 what version do we currently have?

Mindstormmaster we will do a backup before giving you access to the server and the docs.projectxenocide.com site will be down for the time being while you do the update. Information regarding the current setup: http://docs.projectx...Special:Version

Let me know and I will tell mindstormmaster to contact you with the login information.

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#18 Darkhomb

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 02:50 PM

Looked into what needs to be done, doesn't sound bad, I'll do it.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 06:59 PM

well its upgraded

http://docs.projectx...Special:Version

but I do not have console permissions yet that I need to get the database upgraded.. so pages will not work yet

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:27 PM

I don't understand these extentions, how did you 3? :'(

#21 Darkhomb

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:40 PM

What do you mean? I was given ftp access to updated these files

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:48 PM

I mean:

Admin access can be arranged, who volunteer to mantain the blacklist?


And there are 2 stable and 1 experimental anti-spam extentions in mediawiki, one of which is the captcha extention. So, how do you know how to maintain the blacklist? I didn't see anything on their site. The admin will just "ban" the misbehaving user? If that's all, well +1 more had (/me) won't hurt

#23 Darkhomb

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 07:51 PM

I will install the extentions while im updating (if i can get console access) the admins will be able to ban and I haven't looked into the blacklist deep enough to see how we update it but it should be simple

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 11:54 PM

I made a list of the spam bots here: http://www.xcomufo.c...mp;#entry170341

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 05:52 AM

PMd you the database access.

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#26 Darkhomb

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 11:23 AM

Ok well the wiki is up and running, I don't know what it did to the database but it looks like most of the pages are messed up.. insted of trying to restore the database (as it would need to be updated again) I am going to see if MSM can add the backup in a directory and I will manually edit every page this way the database will be good to go....

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:11 PM

Ok... here we go

The old working wiki is now at http://docs.projectx...x.php/Main_Page

Are new 1.10.1 wiki which is outdated is at http://docs.projectx...x.php/Main_Page

database changes are too much to just upgrade, I will be manually editing pages on the new one and pasting everything from the old in there. If anyone would like to help out just in the change "Put updated to current"

after this is complete i will give the people who applied earlier permissions to ban people ect. I already tested on a bot it works great.

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:25 PM

It seems that some edit-formats have changed right? I'm checking for a wiki formatting tutorial

MediaWiki's doesn't really help... http://www.mediawiki...i/Help:Contents

#29 Darkhomb

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:26 PM

It was because spambots changed the templates (this was from a backup) i just fixed it

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:27 PM

Basicly, I click on main page on both, click on a link on both, then copy the edit from the old to the edit new

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:36 PM

Aw I just noticed :), so I'll start copying right away! What have you done already?

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:37 PM

down to the change log, if you think ive done it, click the history button if my name is there with Current next to the changes I've already done it



added the nice xenocide logo on the top left too.. I like it

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 03:43 PM

http://docs.projectx...ecial:Listusers

kekeke it's clubbering tiiiiiiime xD

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 03:58 PM

btw how do we ban users?

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:19 PM

Finally someone to admin the wiki! Good thing the xeno logo was placed instead of the ugly flower, I whined about it for months :P Maybe now you can change the colouring to something more fitting to the PX theme :)

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:24 PM

I'm going to go into mysql and just delete 80 percent of the users... if I delete someone who uses it, just register really quick...


kafros, next to peoples names who edit stuff should be a block button.. also if you click on their name.. in the bottom left where the special pages is should now show up a block user option

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:26 PM

Finally someone to admin the wiki! Good thing the xeno logo was placed instead of the ugly flower, I whined about it for months :P Maybe now you can change the colouring to something more fitting to the PX theme :)



I will try but my priority right now ill be to get this 100 percent how we had it before, clean the users, impliment security etc.. if you happen to stumble upon a skin before i get around to that let me know and ill up it.

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 10:11 PM

ConfirmEdit has been added

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 10:35 PM

Deleted around 200 accounts, this was a script that was done, so if you no longer have an account please recreate one.

Edit - there is no more history with the new wiki, deleted all old, deleted recent changes etc.. This will be a clean slate

Edited by Darkhomb, 06 September 2007 - 10:44 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2007 - 01:30 AM

btw how do we ban users?

You're currently a bureaucrat- you have the power to change people's user rights group. You have to promote yourself to a sysop in the Special:User rights management page. Sysops have the power to ban, protect, etc. from the bottom of the Special page.

Edit- never mind, I promoted you. ;)

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 01:33 AM

I made you a sysop, your good now

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:27 AM

Added spam blacklist.. we won't need to worry about updating it links directly to wikimedia's
http://meta.wikimedi...=Spam_blacklist


edit works great

Spam protection filter
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The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site.

The following text is what triggered our spam filter: http://www.adultchat

Return to Main Page.

Retrieved from "http://docs.projectx....php/Main_Page"

Edited by Darkhomb, 07 September 2007 - 02:28 AM.


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Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:51 AM

:yarr: give those spammers some minced meat...

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:54 AM

Whew, after some initial confusion, I've restored all the pages.

Edit- some of the texts in the CTD:Asset_List still have garbage characters in lieu of these characters: ' " ... -

I think these have to do with MS Word's use of different codes and are unrelated to the wiki update. These will probably have to be hand-edited.

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:56 AM

Great job guys, thanks for the help...

programmers I have added
SyntaxHighlighting - so if you want to add code to the page go to the following for info.

http://www.mediawiki...Highlight_GeSHi

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:59 AM

Ok, now that all pages are restored, I am going to clean up.. since the histories were spam or false pages, i am going to purge all history and recent changes.

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 02:34 PM

I guess the "2.1 I have a heck of a video card (at the time of writing this, that could mean GeForce FX6800), but I'm still getting a refresh rate of only 60 or 75 Fps." section needs updating, although I'm not sure how... Surely the OpenGL part should be removed, and I think XNA provides a constant framerate of 60FPS, so I guess it doesn't fit at all

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:15 PM

I guess the "2.1 I have a heck of a video card (at the time of writing this, that could mean GeForce FX6800), but I'm still getting a refresh rate of only 60 or 75 Fps." section needs updating, although I'm not sure how... Surely the OpenGL part should be removed, and I think XNA provides a constant framerate of 60FPS, so I guess it doesn't fit at all

The OpenGl part was removed this morning already. There are 2 FAQs...
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Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:23 PM

[quote name='Mad' post='170684' date='Sep 8 2007, 01:15 AM'][quote name='kafros' post='170682' date='Sep 7 2007, 10:34 PM']I guess the "2.1 I have a heck of a video card (at the time of writing this, that could mean GeForce FX6800), but I'm still getting a refresh rate of only 60 or 75 Fps." section needs updating, although I'm not sure how... Surely the OpenGL part should be removed, and I think XNA provides a constant framerate of 60FPS, so I guess it doesn't fit at all[/quote]
The OpenGl part was removed this morning already. There are 2 FAQs...
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QUOTE(http://docs.projectxenocide.com/index.php/General:FAQ-C-Sharp_Source#I_have_a_heck_of_a_video_card_.28at_the_time_of_writing_this.2
_that_could_mean_GeForce_FX6800.29.2C_but_I.27m_still_getting_a_refresh_rate_of_
nly_60_or_75_Fps.)
Some have said that it is the notorious OpenGL Defect. Well, it is not a defect, really. Microsoft had thought, "Why do we need to have higher frame rates than what the monitor can handle?" This is called Vertical Synchronization (VSync for short).

As a result, the video card will wait until the monitor needs refreshing. That is why you won't have better frame rates- your video card is wasting time waiting for VSync. Turning off VSync is only useful and recommended if the actual bottleneck for the frame rate is the CPU and not the GPU.

If you are already getting 60Hz, don't worry about it because turning off the VSync introduces some other visual artifacts (defects) caused by the video card feeding to the frame buffer memory and the monitor feeding from it so instead of a complete frame, a mix of the new frame and the last one is sent to the monitor.

It has been reported that some people playing fast paced FPS do have visual problems, headaches, etc, because of the VSync default introduced by WinXP. Even though it can be turned off, you shouldn't play FPS games with that low VSync speeds. Try to set your monitor VSync as high as it can handle.

DISCLAIMER: We are not responsible if you set the VSync frequency too high and you damage or destroy your monitor. Read the monitor's manual. It will tell you what the maximum safe VSync frequency for your monitor is.[/quote]
It seems it wasn't. It isn't the part "Are you using OpenGL or DirectX?", that one is correct

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 02:12 AM

The Problem is still the same (no higher FPS than 60 FPS, on slower Systems the framerate drops below this, so I don't see see a reason to remove this. Ok, We could theoretically remove the first few words about OpenGL, if you want to, please, be my guest, but then again, defending OpenGL a little bit and dealing with old myths is not a bad thing, is it? :)
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