Anonymous Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) I post a weapons set ,OK i didnt made it but is good, just try itweapons_Realistic.zip Edited October 5, 2006 by Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) Please ask before posting somone elses work (modified as it is), i wouldnt have had a problem with it but many people have worked on the original ufo2k weaponset. Overall the new graphics arent bad. I like the M9 Credit where Credit is due please and thank you Edited April 21, 2006 by Sporb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinofdamnation Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 It is good! Though, some weapons are way too accurate compared to some others: Phyton with scope and laser, Accuracy with aimed is 160%When you compare it to XSR sniper rifle, which has accuracy of 120% ...Okay, Usually pistols aren't more accurate than sniper rifles... And also i think that that plutonium pack is little too much, 1000 damage? 30 blast range? Good thing is that it costs so much... But as overall, it is good weapons set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted April 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 OK, I'll work with my own graphics , About the weapons balance, I'll do my best taking out the Plutonium Pack, making the Phyton less accurate than the XSR Sniper Rifle So You will see the weapons set in a few Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappes Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Is the UFO2000 weapon set not released under Gnu General Public License version 2? If so, there should probably be something in there to explain its license and how it differs from the licensing of the rest of the UFO2000 distribution. If, on the other hand, it is GPL'd, (I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be, especially if it's supposed to be the "official" weapon set of UFO2000) then there should be no problem with anyone distributing derivative works of it, as long as they credit the original authors and include a copy of the GPL. As far as my understanding goes, there would be no need for explicit consent from the original authors as the consent is supposedly given in the GPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) ive no idea what the licensing talks about with this sort of thing but i'd still rather have consent. Can somone elaborate on what the licensing of UFO2000 would mean for stuff like this? Edited April 25, 2006 by Sporb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappes Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program'ssource code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that youconspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriatecopyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; keep intact all thenotices that refer to this License and to the absence of any warranty;and give any other recipients of the Program a copy of this Licensealong with the Program. You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, andyou may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee. 2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portionof it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy anddistribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions: a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you changed the files and the date of any change. You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively when run, you must cause it, when started running for such interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this License. (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on the Program is not required to print an announcement.)<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Since the UFO2000 weapon set is included in the main UFO2000 distribution and does not appear to contain any license notices of its own (in addition to the Credits.doc file, which just lists the authors), people will assume that the license of the main UFO2000 distribution extends to the said weapon set. (and they are probably right in assuming that) According to my interpretation of the mumbo-jumbo above, it means, when applied to the u2k weapons set, that by consenting to release their work under GPL, its authors have already given consent for people to make and distribute modified copies of it, as long as the original authors are credited and the license stays the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachtwolf Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) For information on our current liscence : http://www.xcomufo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7852 For short : you can use or modify existing work, but then you MUST credit the authors. Also, this liscence is independant from copyright issues, which exist. How graphic artists proceed, in a general manner is by giving ufo2000 the right to use and do whatever with their work. However, this right stops once you take the work away from ufo2000. For example, I could take ufo2000 and make Potato3000 with it. Checking with the authors is only ethics at this stage, but one MUST provide everyone credit. Now let's say I take the weapon images and use them in another game, RPG-maker for instance. That is a "violation" of copyright and you have to check with the authors. Modifying ufo2000 as a whole and redistributing (with correct credit) is ok. Taking parts of ufo2000 and putting them elsewhere (even with credit) is not ok. As for your weaponset, since this is still part of ufo2000, all you would have to do is credit the original authors.But nothing forbids you from taking one more step and asking kindly. Edited April 25, 2006 by nachtwolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtype Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Modifying ufo2000 as a whole and redistributing (with correct credit) is ok. As long as you distribute the Sourcecode under the same License also, yes.Taking parts of ufo2000 and putting them elsewhere (even with credit) is not ok. Wrong, you can take any part of ufo2000 and integrate it into any other game or whatever, as long as that game uses the same licence and you give credit.Well as long as we are talking about GPL anyway.Also, you can take ufo2000 and do whatever you want with it as long as you do not redistribute whatever you make with it.But, taking parts of ufo2000 and integrating it in another program that is not under GPL, open source or not, would not be OK. That is why it is sometimes called a viral licence, anything "infected" with it has to become GPL too. But anyway there is no obligation to use stuff under GPL licence, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Modifying ufo2000 as a whole and redistributing (with correct credit) is ok. As long as you distribute the Sourcecode under the same License also, yes.Taking parts of ufo2000 and putting them elsewhere (even with credit) is not ok. Wrong, you can take any part of ufo2000 and integrate it into any other game or whatever, as long as that game uses the same licence and you give credit.Well as long as we are talking about GPL anyway.Also, you can take ufo2000 and do whatever you want with it as long as you do not redistribute whatever you make with it.But, taking parts of ufo2000 and integrating it in another program that is not under GPL, open source or not, would not be OK. That is why it is sometimes called a viral licence, anything "infected" with it has to become GPL too. But anyway there is no obligation to use stuff under GPL licence, so....<{POST_SNAPBACK}>What prevents, say, a company from taking for example the UFO2000 code and using it without giving credit and without using the licence? All they'd have to do is grab the code, modify it, and compile, as long as no one sees the source code, they'd be safe, wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtype Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 What prevents, say, a company from taking for example the UFO2000 code and using it without giving credit and without using the licence? All they'd have to do is grab the code, modify it, and compile, as long as no one sees the source code, they'd be safe, wouldn't they?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually, they are allowed to do that.The GPL allows them to get the code and modify it, without having to tell anyone about it.But what they are not allowed to do is redistribute what they made with the code, like sell it or give it away for free, unless they fulfill the conditions of the licence. And you are always safe if you break the rules unless someone finds out you did...If the copyright holder finds out, he can drag them to court for copyright violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachtwolf Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) Modifying ufo2000 as a whole and redistributing (with correct credit) is ok. As long as you distribute the Sourcecode under the same License also, yes.Taking parts of ufo2000 and putting them elsewhere (even with credit) is not ok. Wrong, you can take any part of ufo2000 and integrate it into any other game or whatever, as long as that game uses the same licence and you give credit.Well as long as we are talking about GPL anyway.Also, you can take ufo2000 and do whatever you want with it as long as you do not redistribute whatever you make with it.But, taking parts of ufo2000 and integrating it in another program that is not under GPL, open source or not, would not be OK. That is why it is sometimes called a viral licence, anything "infected" with it has to become GPL too. But anyway there is no obligation to use stuff under GPL licence, so....What prevents, say, a company from taking for example the UFO2000 code and using it without giving credit and without using the licence? All they'd have to do is grab the code, modify it, and compile, as long as no one sees the source code, they'd be safe, wouldn't they? Actually, there are a few means to check this, analysis of the exe could provide enough info to get this to court and call for an examination of the company's code. @ Oldtype : true, thanks for the precisions. Edited April 26, 2006 by nachtwolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted April 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 OK, I've updated the weapon set but I didn't make my own graphics because I don't have any proper softare Now, I hope you don't piss of here it isweapons_Realistic_v2.0.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 i used MS paint to make those guns - Pixel art style. Other people use other programs but good ole MS paint was my weapon of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted May 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I'm working on some new graphics with MS Paint, but I'm going so slow on thisSo this is the last update with sombody else's work You will see the new graphics in 2 weeks , (approximate) I made a Back Pack and a Bait but i'm not short that this is usefull, so I hope you can tell me what do you think about this weapons_Realistic_updated.zip Any dislike about the weapon set, please tell me what's wrong Thanks and sorry about my english, it's a little rusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Cant get weapons realistic pack to work, using most recent beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted July 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 (edited) Yes, but at this moment i cant answer, because im working on this problem. Anyway, if anybody knows why do we got this problem, please answer the question P-D: I got the same problem when i try to use som ufo2k weapon (downloaded from the ufo2000 weapons consepts discussion forum)please, tell me why Edited July 3, 2006 by Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Yes, but at this moment i cant answer, because im working on this problem. Anyway, if anybody knows why do we got this problem, please answer the questionPlease check this link: http://www.xcomufo.com/forums/index.php?sh...ndpost&p=155558Anyway if that does not help and you are still having troubles, don't hesitate to ask for support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted July 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Thanks serge, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Serge,I been working on this problem,but i cannot fix the weapon set, the file says:Invalid 'pHeld' property for item 'item´s name' - ignored so the question is:when do the pHeld is valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platium_Panda Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Now i know this may be a bit bold for my first post, but anonymous!! KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OTHER PEOPLE MATERIAL YOU TALENTLESS PIRATE!!!! okay, thats isnt nice, and i dont mean to hurt anyones feelings here, but people get REALLY aggrovated when their material is BLATENTLY taken, chopped up and reassembled, often badly. This has happened to me before so i am rather ANTI on the subject regsPanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 2Anonymous: All the file path references in *.lua file should be exactly in the same case as on disk. The game just can't find the file if it has wrong name. 2Platium_Panda: Making derived work is ok, that's why we all have electricity and computers now. Otherwise we would still all live in caves By the way, GPL license we are using (at least for code, that is certain) encourages creation of derived work and has proven to be efficient, as now we have lots of free software available. So I don't see any problems if Anonymous takes some existing weapon set and modifies it as he likes. He should only credit original authors, explain where to take original work and clearly indicate that this weapon set is modified. If this weapon set is worse than the original, nobody would use it. If it contains some useful improvements, hey, that's what is called a progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platium_Panda Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 hey, as long as credit is given where it should be, i too dont see a problem with it, its just blatently passing things off as their own sorry if i came across agrovated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted July 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Platium_Panda:I,d put a readme.txt file in the set, please, read it PD:I'd put a credits file too, and its the ufo2000 credits file. Ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 does the liscence mean that anyone can come along, recolour or rearrange my hard work and claim it as their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Now i know this may be a bit bold for my first post, but anonymous!! KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OTHER PEOPLE MATERIAL YOU TALENTLESS PIRATE!!!!Not bold, offensive / insultive, I'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtype Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) does the liscence mean that anyone can come along, recolour or rearrange my hard work and claim it as their own?Exept for the claim as their own part, yes. And he does not actually make that claim.Seems like he did not update the Credits.doc file in the weapon set, meaning his own name is not in there.Bad choice using .doc BTW.I would replace that credits file with something along these lines:This weaponset is a modified version of the "weponset name" by "names"See the changelog for details on what was changedJust be sure that the weaponset names are not the same, to avoid any confusion. Edited July 17, 2006 by Oldtype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) "OK, I made this weapons set and I feel, everyone must got it." in my book, that comment is as good as an "i made this stuff", although no specific mention of graphics is made i agree. Whats wrong with a .Doc file? Edited July 17, 2006 by Sporb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtype Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Whats wrong with a .Doc file?It looks funky in a text editor. I run Linux and wordpad is not part of the package. OK, I can read them in OpenOffice, but I hardly ever use that. Plain text files are a better choice when formating is not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporb Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Ah, i can change it - it was a plain text document at one stage - ill put it back that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted July 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 OK, I´m already working on this, id changed the weapons names and im workin in new graphics, so dont lose your mind pd: the readme file says:Here I've used graphics that Plasma, Sporb, Hobbes, Natchwolf, Dark Mankey and Kratos made. I just modified this files to make this weapon set I promise that, I will make my own graphics later, but for the momentI can't make any decent file by my own due to problems with my softwareSo I hope you don't piss off pd2:serge, i cant do it , and i dont know why, how can i put the same path than in my diskplease if you have any free time tell me how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platium_Panda Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Dark monkey? what did he contribute may i ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted August 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 .........mmm..........Im tired.........so i think its so hard to do this weapon set, im just bored, so......the only thing im going to do is post a weapon that i did with paint, but not now, im not at my home right now.............................so.......thats gonna be my last post here........................................................................................................................................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted August 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Ok, this is maybe my last post , just tell me what do you think, 2 simple questions: What kind graphics do you want (modified or something like the g36 posted here => g36.bmp )? Do i must stop to do this? please answer this questions. And here..........mmm.............download it if you really want weapons_Realistic.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Please continue, I enjoy this set greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted August 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Ok, that's enought for me, i wll post new versions, but when do i find someone who use it online, please i play as Sam, make me know. and, Jhon Faust, you like to be the one who like this weapon set, so what do you think is left or wrong in the set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 + I like the weapons that are unavailbule elsewhere, like revolver, decoy, minigun. No weapons are overwhelmingly powerful, and I like the multuple rifle choices. The graphics you made are great! -the custom weapons should either be added to the main set, or have other choices on the page, the backpack was mystifying (mabe I'm stupid), some weapons always end up in the trash1 set. There is also the compadibility issues with new versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yeah you right, im alredy done another page for the set but i think its too ugly, i most fix it, do you think i most to put the backpack again, and the reson of the custom weapon set is why I make more custom weapons and upgrade the weapons that alredy exist in there Sorry, i didnt post anything because i get problems with my computer I dont know how to fix compatibility issues im doing my best on this Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Glad ot hear that you're up and running again. Hope to see the final form soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted October 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Ho sorry, im really sorry, I was worried about something else and left this set Anyways I add a RPG and a hands sheet but its not done, I´ll keep working on itAbout the Custom weapons, I´ll add more weapons in the next "version" Thank you so muchweapons_Realistic.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted October 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Ho no!!!! this forum is geting dead, I don´t want to stop my work, please, i need your help What do you want for this weapon set??im trying to fix the compatibility issues... but i just cant do it, I dont know were is the problem, if anybody knows how to make my weapon set compatible, just tell me how,and if you want to do it by yourself, hehe giveme a copy, hahaha,just kidding, but help me please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezulkim Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 this forum is geting deadThat's a lie! :Oim trying to fix the compatibility issues... but i just cant do it, I dont know were is the problem, if anybody knows how to make my weapon set compatible, just tell me how,Look at the AddEquipment groups at the end of the file. Comment the weapon names out (with a -, IIRC) one by one and test the set to see if the problem gets fixed. I assume that you have this problem too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 OK, lets make a few questions. What do YOU want for this weapons set?What do you think i must change?Do YOU like the set? Please answer this questions, I need to know what could make this set better Anyways, thanks Saludos!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hello?? why dont you answer the questions? in fact, no body is making any post, the last post was made for me and 4 days ego plaese!!! the subforum is getting death Ho no not again!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 sorry, I really like it, but a idea: anti tank Rifle Antitank rifle Would problally weigh 30, with clip weight of 4-6 clip size of 6-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 sorry, I really like it, but a idea: anti tank Rifle Antitank rifle Would problally weigh 30, with clip weight of 4-6 clip size of 6-8 Ok, ill try it, but you gave me a idea, you´ll see in the next version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Woo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted April 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Ho, i terribly sorry, i didnt done the set yet, i had an accident in nov 4, and i´ve been in a coma till feb 30,im getting better right now, so i will update the set soon, i will have some problems to balance the set, i didnt play ufo 2000 for about 3 months, the only thing is your opinion about the set and time to finish my rehab. so, my friends, ill work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Angel Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Ho, i terribly sorry, i didnt done the set yet, i had an accident in nov 4, and i´ve been in a coma till feb 30,im getting better right now, so i will update the set soon, i will have some problems to balance the set, i didnt play ufo 2000 for about 3 months, the only thing is your opinion about the set and time to finish my rehab. so, my friends, ill work on it Hot piss, are you OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Faust Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Feel better. We await your return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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