miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I just had a massive battle with two battleships and two other (unknown) UFOs. Took ages but eventually managed to take the two battleships and one of the others down. The last one escaped. I mopped up the three crashed UFOs with my troops, and then tried to transfer some alien artifacts to my research base. Transtellar refused. I thought to myself, darn, theyve done it again, how much will it cost me this time? I often have to pay them lots of money after big battles. I went to pay them what they wanted, and i got a different screen: Transtellar: hostile towards X-COM Whilst X-COM continue to oppose our alien friends we will remain hostile. Negotiations are impossible. What?! Theyve allied with the aliens? I know that half the city got destroyed, but it was effectively the alien's fault! They are the ones bringing the battleships in! I checked the alien infiltration screen, and not only is transtellar at 0%, but EVERYONE is at 0%. I even tried to look for aliens anyway, but none there. Whats going on? I am completely unable to transfer or buy anything. Is there anything i can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Hehheeh Seems like you're screwed Seriously, I've never had that? They always demand loads of cash to remain friends, but I've never got them that hostile they refuse to negotiate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim69 Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) Hmm, ave u tried goin to a transteller building and doin a find alien thing? I did that 1ce and there was 1 there even tho it didn't show up on Cityscape. I aint played it in a couple of years tho, I could be mistaken. Edit: Read below post, soz u were right. Edited August 3, 2003 by Jim69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) I checked the alien infiltration screen, and not only is transtellar at 0%, but EVERYONE is at 0%. I even tried to look for aliens anyway, but none there he already tried that. I guess you could alter it using an editor. Edited August 3, 2003 by j'ordos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) Damnit, Psyke just had the nerve to attack my secondary base. Geez, whats the world coming to? They are going to have to pay for that one. Time to burn! EDIT: Are you not allowed to change your soldier's equipment on a base attack? My men were equipped with stun guns/grens (*cough Solmine cough*) and they had to take Psyke on with those. Still won. Edited August 3, 2003 by miceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark0 Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 this happens probably because u have destroyed roads or stuff liek that belonging to transtellar and i guess you really are screwed.so i guess use the Midnight edito, it has a section for Organisations.Relations Xcom towards TranstellarTranstellar towards you. u can even change Sirus to become allied to ya.but i guess u wont liek that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 I have a savegame i could load, but that would be a pain as its one of my emergency ones so its a bit far back. I suppose this counts as an emergency though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) They are going to have to pay for that one. Time to burn! I think I see what's your problem here... With that attitude I can believe you're having trouble making friends Edited August 3, 2003 by j'ordos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 The above only applies to Psyke and Sirius, everyone else im very nice to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) Damnit, they attacked me again! And Im still using only stun weapons. :uzzi2::laser::flame::plasma::uzzi: EDIT: Lost one that time. They are sooooo going to pay for this when my primary team knocks on their door. It was a bad idea to attack my half built secondary base yes it was. Edited August 3, 2003 by miceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 <breathes a sigh of relief>End of the week, and Transtellar asked me to pay them 25k to be nice to me again. Thank god. Guess they heard about my plans to burn them alive... I had been looking for an excuse to test some weaponry. Oh well, i think that Psyke just volunteered for that anyway. :devilaugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 The cheek of it! Psyke are asking me for compensation for my "... recent activity ..."! They are the ones that invaded me! They are bloody well going to pay for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Shouldn't you be fighting aliens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) I am! Im doing both at the same time but it seems that some of my neighbours want to play rough. Ill soon sort them out. The focus is back on the aliens now. I just got attacked by a really big dark UFO, completely on its own. Took it down and about to start recovery. Wish me luck. Just completed disruptor armor and bio transport in research too! EDIT: Ok, that UFO is bigger on the cityscape than it is in combat. Got some nasty aliens in it though. Met some new aliens with psi abilities. They look like ewoks with green coats on or something (aha, psimorphs apparently). Lots of the megaspawn things too. Still, mopped em up without too much trouble. EDIT: Oh bloody heck. Transtellar is hostile again. Stupid fools. Edited August 3, 2003 by miceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[dipstick] Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Either a battleship or a mothership - nasty buggers to take out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[dipstick] Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) That would be a mothership! TAKE OUT THE PSIMORPHS!!! Actually they have never really done anything to me. They MC me, but don't DO anything??!! The megaspawn (are they those reaper type thingies) take out a whole squad of crack troops if I am not careful!! Edited August 3, 2003 by dipstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) Bit small inside wasnt it? The battleship seemed much bigger. Anyway, thats enough death and destruction for one night. I am off to bed. Dont stay up too late! Except its probably late afternoon for most of you. Oh well. EDIT: Yeah, the megaspawns are the equivelents of reapers but on two legs. I hate their missiles. The psimorphs just MCed one of my men for a few seconds each. They seemed to have a slight problem with my toxin filled bullets. End of problem. :: Edited August 3, 2003 by miceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[dipstick] Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 Lazy sod, KILL KILL KILLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/bed.gifhttp://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/sleep1.gif (note: why the heck does a smiley need a bed that long?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brute Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 <breathes a sigh of relief>End of the week, and Transtellar asked me to pay them 25k to be nice to me again. Thank god. Guess they heard about my plans to burn them alive... I had been looking for an excuse to test some weaponry. Oh well, i think that Psyke just volunteered for that anyway. :devilaugh:if u can't improve your frienship by paying them, there are several ways... in your transtellar case... 1. attack psyke... psyke is hated by %80 of the organisations including trantellar-that is what you did- 2. attack megapol. megapol accuses the transtellar o be friendly to aliens. then you can pay back megapol 3. attack transtellar often. Not only lvling his buildings, also raid them. Soon they'll be very sorry and ask for peace... Note: i told u would receive more answers What is going to happen if they are hostile? -Your ships will try to attack transtellar ships, if-you-see-Keigh (but who is Keigh?) the city up -since they're small and hard to hit- You can mess with a lot of organistions...-You have trouble when hiring employees. The tarnsport tubes they are using must not be damaged... -careful about the city--You won't have the option to transfer unresearched ship parts... equipment can be transferred in your ships -a soldier's inventory- but you'll have a hard time with ship parts. Try building a psyics lab in your military base-alien containment. live / dead aliens. Same problem with the ship parts. when you are returning from a mission, first visit your research base and leave the artifacts/ aliens, then return your military base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThemALL Posted August 3, 2003 Report Share Posted August 3, 2003 (edited) Brute delivered all the good hints, especially3. (attack Transstellar until they beg for peace) :crazy: I'm not sure if you know, miceless... You should capture one of each alien ALIVE! Even Psimorph or Megaspawn. Just a hint... Good luck and clean your city from alien scum! :psychosanta: Edited August 3, 2003 by BurnThemALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I must say that the few hours of chaos last night were the most fun I have had playing Apoc so far. Everything seemed to happen at once. Made a nice change to complain at humans instead of aliens. Wish i didnt have to be at work right now. 1. attack psyke... psyke is hated by %80 of the organisations including trantellar-that is what you did-Actually they attacked me, but i guess that has the same effect. As i said, Psyke asked for peace at the end of the day. What do they think they are playing at? 2. attack megapol. megapol accuses the transtellar o be friendly to aliens. then you can pay back megapolHmmm, id rather not attack MEgapol as they are needed too. I will however, keep this in mind as a last resort. 3. attack transtellar often. Not only lvling his buildings, also raid them. Soon they'll be very sorry and ask for peace...Yes, i was drawing up plans to have them burned to the ground. I guess the plans got leaked. What is going to happen if they are hostile?They will die a long and excrutuiatingly painful death. -Your ships will try to attack transtellar ships, if-you-see-Keigh (but who is Keigh?) the city up -since they're small and hard to hit- You can mess with a lot of organistions...Yeah, my transport took a potshot at a cruise ship leaving the starport. Took a chunk out of the starport. Oops. -You have trouble when hiring employees. The tarnsport tubes they are using must not be damaged... -careful about the city-Indeed. Had the problem with my engineers. -You won't have the option to transfer unresearched ship parts... equipment can be transferred in your ships -a soldier's inventory- but you'll have a hard time with ship parts. Try building a psyics lab in your military baseYeah, theyre a cool looking sword thing and a inverted ice cream cone at my base, but i cant get them to my research base. Oh well, they have a queue a mile long anyway. I dont have room for research at my main base. -alien containment. live / dead aliens. Same problem with the ship parts.Less of a problem as i think i have done most of the aliens. when you are returning from a mission, first visit your research base and leave the artifacts/ aliens, then return your military base...Thats exactly what i thought last night. Will try that out later. I'm not sure if you know, miceless...Are you doubting my Apoc knowledge!? Im shocked! :o You should capture one of each alien ALIVE! Even Psimorph or Megaspawn. Just a hint...Indeed. Its just that I wasnt equipped for stun tactics. I did make a vague attempt to stun a megaspawn, but it seems five stun grenades were insufficient. It then killed itself. Good luck and clean your city from alien scum!Forget the alien scum, its the human scum i have to deal with tonight! <draws up plans to wipe psyke off the face of the planet> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 (edited) Ok, im back from work. Apoc time!I have a can of pop (soda for all you americans), a sandwich, biscuits (cookies) and an unsatiable desire to kill. Here goes... EDIT: Egyptian cheddar really sucks. I miss decent cheddar. Edited August 4, 2003 by miceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThemALL Posted August 4, 2003 Report Share Posted August 4, 2003 I'm not sure if you know, miceless...Are you doubting my Apoc knowledge!? Im shocked! :o I beg for mercy! "Indeed. Its just that I wasnt equipped for stun tactics. I did make a vague attempt to stun a megaspawn, but it seems five stun grenades were insufficient. It then killed itself. " You should never stop aliens with suicidal tendencies from doing it... :psychosanta: Good luck! :happybanana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 I beg for mercy! Thou shalt pay for doubting me! Indeed. Its just that I wasnt equipped for stun tactics. I did make a vague attempt to stun a megaspawn, but it seems five stun grenades were insufficient. It then killed itself.You should never stop aliens with suicidal tendencies from doing it... Except if you want to stun them. No luck so far, though i have yet to actually try that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Cult of Sirius did some suicidal attacks too : My men were grouping to storm a room full of cults (2 groups from 2 different entrances, each 6 men) when suddenly a cultist with a ROCKET LAUNCHER walks up to the gruop and fires :whatwhat: . I had a rocket dude myself in front which was already wounded, he died from the impact and in the chaos that followed all his rockets and grenades exploded resulting in almost complete extermination of that squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 Hmm, i have had that happen. You get explosive chain reactions. It often happens when I shoot aliens as they try and come out of the doors. If lots come out, they all die in on spot. If there is an explosion in that area then a lot of grenades and stuff can go off. I have lost many men that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brute Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 i hate the chain reactions when they destroy the dropped personal shields...That's why i don't like to burn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted August 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 I have missions where I can kill almost the whole aliens ship crew with the toxigun, and they all leave their equipment. Im thinking "Woohoo, lots of good equipment" while I search for the last few aliens. I find them, and I watch in slow motion as they toss a grenade/fire a rocket. Damn thing lands and sets off a chain reaction. At the very least, some of the equipment on the ground will be destroyed. Sometimes, my men might lose one (or even two) of they shields they are currently using and on rare occasions I have lost men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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