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#1 Blood Angel

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 10:29 AM

Sporb, Abyssion and I are working on a new map, named X-Port. It is a kind of Xcom base using planes and subs; so Xcom and TFTD elements are implemented. I have finished work on the first tile, the Diver's Airlock/Defences. This is where most attacks are centralised, as in TFTD, although this time they've fitted some rockets.

The first picture shows the bottom floor of the tile. It is generally flooded with water, although when divers/SWSs are about to emerge, it is drained. The large door in the east provides access to the canal system, so that emerging divers can patrol the sea immediately outside the port. This is also used by technitians who need to repair external parts of the port when all the FSubs are deployed.

The second picture shows the first floor of the tile. OK, it's directly copied from TFTD.

The third picture shows the second floor of the tile. This floor is used to connect all the tiles. You will note there is a space between the edge of the tile and the door on the south/east sides. This will occur on all tiles. It is so that when an adjacent tile is fitted, an airlock is created, so that if part of the port is flooded, divers can still access it without flooding other parts.

The final pictures shows the defence platform. Two missile turrets are fitted to prevent UFOs from landing there and deploying directly. A spare stock of missiles is kept in the north-west corner, which is carried by an autofork (Shown) to the missile area, where it is loaded by burly gunners.

Edited by Blood Angel, 02 August 2005 - 10:30 AM.


#2 Blehm 98

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 10:52 AM

Ah cool, good job, i think i'll like it
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#3 Violazr

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 11:26 AM

Looks nice!

But remember that a myp which is 4-levels all through will be as large as 4 ground level maps. And having too many objects (eg ground) makes the map SLOW in online games, as I just experienced when testplaying Normandy.

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 11:30 AM

Violazr...that is only for beta. Which i need to mention in the bug tracker about this problem.

Edited by Kratos, 02 August 2005 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 02 August 2005 - 02:47 PM

Great job blood angel keep it up. =b
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#6 Blood Angel

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 03:16 AM

I do have a *small* question, when making a multi-tile map, do they all need to use the same tiles? And how do you create UFOs in maps, do you just copy/paste?

#7 Violazr

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 04:45 AM

ALL maps in the terrain must use the same tilesets, in the same order.

Basically each tile in a map is assigned a number, and the tiles are numbered in the order they are loaded. eg if you swap a MCD (that is not the last) for one of another size, all following tiles will be wrong.
The maximum total number of tiles is 253. So decide first which tilesets to use.

However, you can always swap a tileset for a similar one (ie a modified copy of it) later.
I did that by first changing some graphics, then replacing unused tiles with custom ones.


EDIT: Considering the above, copy/paste only works if your first tilesets are the same as in the ufo's terrain.

Edited by Violazr, 03 August 2005 - 04:47 AM.


#8 Sporb

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 04:47 AM

Simply ask , and you shall receive all of my graphical attention

#9 Blood Angel

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 04:59 AM

Hmm, I may have a mission for you, sporb. Any good at tileset recompiling?

AVENGER
FRNITURE
LIGHTNIN
U_EXT02
U_WALL02
UEXT2
UEXT3
UINT1
UINT2
doors from UINT3
XBASES01
XBASES02
XBASES05

Could someone compile these into a tileset called XPORT, or as few tilesets as you can. And I have another job for sporb. Because all of this is in the TFTD pallete, The avenger is cyan and all the UFOs are lilac. Could you recolour the first 5 tilesets so that in the TFTD pallette they look more like the XCOM ones?

Edited by Blood Angel, 03 August 2005 - 06:18 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2005 - 10:54 AM

You can't combine all of those tilesets into a single one for 2 reasons:
1) Their sum of MCD entries goes over 400.
2) You need to use the existing MCD files and you can't add new MCD entries to them.

To use all possible entries you will need to redo the following tilesets: Urban (112), Roads (23), Urbits (25), Frniture (26) and U_base (62), giving you the maximum of 253 available tiles.

Of course, other configurations of tiles are possible...check my map design guide here. I've just updated it with an annex that contains a list of the UFO/TFTD tilesets and their number of MCD entries.

And the Avenger and UFO tilesets might appear with different colors on Map View (since it can use only 1 palette for each map) but they will appear with their correct colors on UFO2000..

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 10:58 AM

yes, the game is rather odd with colors, if you use mapview and look at the Hammerhead or Leviathan from TFTD, they are solid Gold, so don't mind the odd colors
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#12 Blood Angel

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 11:34 AM

That's why they cost so much...

OK, scrap that. If the colours in the game are the same, and they all fit (which they do) then there's no need. And if the colours aren't the same, then the Xcom R&D boys have been experimenting with new non-stealth paint...

#13 Violazr

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 01:49 PM

The colors all appear right in UFO2000, though I even find the normal TFTD maps a little strange-coloured sometimes.

Just switch palettes in the "paths" menu to the palette of whatever you're editing at the moment.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 03:39 PM

sorry BA , im useless at mapping for Xcom (havent had the time to learn how yet <_< ). you could always extract the graphics for each tile and make a completely new set i guess but itd be alot of stuffing round. im best for making new tiles.

#15 Blood Angel

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:40 AM

Actually, I don't think I need any of that doing.

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 01:28 PM

Actually, I get garble because I'm trying to mix UFO and TFTD tiles in a single thing. Which sucks.

#17 Violazr

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 06:07 PM

It does indeed cause some problems, as I experienced today trying to make a better version of the crashed plane map.
When I just copy the mcd/tab/pck from tftd to another directory, the palette is wrong. When I get the graphics out using the right palette, and re-implement them with the other, it works and looks right in the last stable, but the beta gives me some pck error.

I'll have to try around a bit more to find a way around this without custom making an identical tileset...

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 02:09 AM

Actually, I get garble because I'm trying to mix UFO and TFTD tiles in a single thing. Which sucks.

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That's just coz you have too many MCD entries. :)
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 02:29 AM

That's annoying. I may need a tileset recompilation after all.