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Guest drewid

sexy logo.

 

hmmmm "xenocide project xenocide" reads a bit odd tho.

How about having the word "project", same size as now, but on top.

 

like this gash version I've knocked up only better.

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The original rank icons were nice but I felt they were never really linked to a military feel and as such never really fit in well. TFTD however were much better as they had a marine feel to them.

 

With that in mind I 've gone through the rank icons and designed them with a military feel in mind. I think that the feel would swing more towards Airforce/Navy than the Army (sorry to all you groundpounders) and have taken that into consideration when designing the rank icons.

 

I've stuck with the same amount of ranks as to chage that would mean a lot of reworking and gameplay testing. All thats really needed is to rename each rank to fit in.

 

With that in mind I think the ranks should go:

 

Recruit - Can be from any rank in previous military but all newcomers to the xenocide project will start at this level (The idea for this came from the SAS). Replaces Rookie.

 

Specialist replaces Squaddie.

 

Lieutenant replaces Sergeant.

 

Warrant Officer replaces Captain.

 

Major replaces Colonel.

 

General replaces Commander.

 

These aren't final, just throwing ideas out.

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Guest drewid

Glad you liked the TFTD icons, I did too, but then I'm biased :D

 

Sergeant is three stripes, yes?

 

I prefer commander to general.

 

I found a web page t'other day with some really nice rank reference. I'll see if I can find it if ya want.

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This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I wasn't here for that one but I can imagine

:bash: :uzzi: :cussing:

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I think that my logo isnt apropiate to the forum, too overloaded, and using black background...

It is only and idea, I can make better versions acordly with some specs.

 

Drewid, nice idea, next version I'll put project upside.

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Glad you liked the TFTD icons, I did too, but then I'm biased :D

 

Sergeant is three stripes, yes?

 

I prefer commander to general. 

 

I found a web page t'other day with some really nice rank reference. I'll see if I can find it if ya want.

I wonder why you're biased :)

 

Usually sergeant is three stripes but in this case its two. Which was primarily the reason for not naming it as sarge.

 

The icons go

1---2

3---4

5---6

 

1 - Recruit

2 - Specialist.

3 - Lieutenant.

4 - Warrant Officer.

5 - Major.

6 - General or Commander.

 

I did a google on ranks and didn't really turn much up so yeah that would be cool :)

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This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

Hehe, I read it as "... let the sleeping dog die"

You would never be so mean huh would you? :sorry:

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Ok this a military actual structure of ranks

 

U.S. Forces

Army ------------------------ Marines

Enlisted

Private ------------------------ Private

Private 2 --------------------- Private First Class

Private First Class ---------- -

Specialist --------------------- Lance Corporal

Corporal ---------------------- Corporal

Sergeant --------------------- Sergeant

Staff Sergeant -------------- Staff Sergeant

Sergeant First Class ------- Gunnery Sergeant

Master Sergeant ------------ Master Sergeant

First Sergeant --------------- First Sergeant

Sergeant Major ------------- Master Gunnery Sergeant

Command Sergeant Major Sergeant Major

Sergeant Major of the Army Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps

 

Warrant officer

Warrant Officer One -------- Warrant Officer One

Chief Warrant Officer Two - Warrant Officer Two

Chief Warrant Officer Three - Warrant Officer Three

Chief Warrant Officer Four -- Warrant Officer Four

Master Warrant Officer Five - Chief Warrant Officer

 

Officer ---- This ranks are both used by Army and US Marines

2nd Lieutenant

1st Lieutenant

Captain

Major

Lieutenant Colonel

Colonel

Brigadier General

Major General

Lieutenant General

General

 

British Forces

 

British Army ------- Royal Marines

 

Enlisted

Private ------------------- Marinet

Lance Corporal --------- Lance Corporal

Corporal ------------------ Corporal

Sergeant ----------------- Sergeant

Staff Sergeant ---------- Color Sergeant

 

Warrant Officer

Warrant Officer Class 2 - Warrant Officer Class 2

Warrant Officer Class 1 - Warrant Officer Class 1

 

Officer

Second Lieutenant ------ -

Second Lieutenant ------ Second Lieutenant

Lieutenant ---------------- Lieutenant

Captain -------------------- Captain

Major ----------------------- Major

Lieutenant Colonel ------ Lieutenant Colonel

Colonel -------------------- Colonel

Brigadier ----------------- Brigadier

Major General ----------- Major General

Lieutenant General ----- Lieutenant General

General ------------------- General

Field Marshall -

 

Sorry for not including ranks for other countries but i think with this there should be enough to create a rank structure

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Sorry i think that post was a little too long :unsure:

but i hope there are more than 6 ranks in total

 

anyway the only other rank structure that i know was the japanese but i don't remember it well

in any case i think we should keep like 10 ranks, that's only me

 

See you

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This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I think that we are wasting time concentrating on the logo again... but i have to say that the last one looks awesome....

( do we ever got permission to use that sectoid in our current logo??? )

 

Greetings

Red Knight

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This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I think that we are wasting time concentrating on the logo again... but i have to say that the last one looks awesome....

( do we ever got permission to use that sectoid in our current logo??? )

 

Greetings

Red Knight

If I remember correctly, the 'sectoid' part of the title pic did not originate from xcom.

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This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I think that we are wasting time concentrating on the logo again... but i have to say that the last one looks awesome....

( do we ever got permission to use that sectoid in our current logo??? )

 

Greetings

Red Knight

Yep Fatal Error contacted the guy and it's a go! Many of the logo suggestioned looked awsome but we already have one, let's not go down this road again.

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Guest drewid

There are two things that often get designed early in the process of a game. -

Look and feel of interface, and name/logo.

It's hard not to get sick of them by the end. :D

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I am not sure whether it is necessary to have 10 ranks. 6 is more than enough.

 

Regarding icons, than I would prefer something more distinguished than the number of stripes, different symbols probably. I liked the triangle on the top though.

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Having a noticeably different rank on the shoulder in the battlescape would be particularly fun in multiplayer, you could target officers to destroy morale of the enemy. :devilsmile:
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IMO dark green doenst show up very well. Try Silver. Why dont we use real rank insignias? Most people regonises them alot better, and less desining.

Any bright colour is going to throw the balance of the image out totally. Rank insignia unless for dress purposes aren't meant to stick out like a sore thumb otherwise that would give the enemy something to shoot at :)

 

The original xcom never used 'real' insignia so we have to do the same to keep the 'feel'. Anyway I like designing, that's what I do if I don't I'll not have anything to do. :)

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I would agree about the green being brighter, a blue (contrast) or silver would work too.

 

In the field these would probably keep the same designs but not in bright colours.

These days real soldiers have camo insignia so you have to be right next to them even to see it, The Bright insignia are kept for dress uniform or non-combat missions.

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Having a noticeably different rank on the shoulder in the battlescape would be particularly fun in multiplayer, you could target officers to destroy morale of the enemy. :devilsmile:

I like your thinking :)

 

 

I think different colors of rank badges would be a good idea, or at least have them significantly different enough to be able to tell from a distance. I would get tired of zooming in to see the badge.

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i lke the new insignias they look much nicer

and i do see they follow a partern but i still think you

should add at least two more ranks, as i see it you go

from sergeant to cpatain and from captain to Brig. Gen.

i just believe there should just be a little more eeerr...

i gues buffer zone i mean i would love to get promoted

from sergeant to Captain :D :D but how about if you

create Staff NCO "Non-Commisioned Officer"

 

well just my $0.02

see you

Xracer

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oh by the way i don't know where you got the idea

of the cross rifles, but it looks like Marine Corps style

which i like :D

 

Once a "Xenocide agent" always a "Xenocide agent"

 

i don't know what are you guys goign to call them :)

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We sort of decided on a military style patch not a lot of colour with a large x through the centre. Maverick did a concept somewhere. I was thinking it should have an airforce or marines feeling to it rather than an army style. So elongated triangles and stuff like that. However if you guys want to fire up concepts in here feel free.
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Well I threw something together real quick. I'm horrible at photoshop still, so just think of these as general ideas. I personally like the one on the bottom left the best, although it needs an artists touch fro any justice...

patches.jpg

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But what I really wanted to do, but couldnt get to work, is a combination of these two, so that you had the patch, starfield background, blue orb, and an alien face within the orb, lastly emblazed with the Xenocide name.

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Guest drewid

I thinnk we propably need to finalise our military force name before we can finish the logo.

 

The shield patch idea is. that looks like it would look good on an arm or a base wall.

 

The other patch had an earthglobe on it which would be good. and I like the shape of the Demich's logo.

 

I feel an idea coming on. I'll knock something up when it's had time to brew.

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I guess that I am going to be the new guy for awhile. :) So in form with what I've seen I'll go ahead and say Hi, looking forward to working with you and toss out my concept of the Xenocide logo :)

 

http://ivic.cncdsl.com/wip/xenocidev2d.jpg

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