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#1 Tenebrae

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Posted 18 December 2003 - 09:53 PM

Hey...how about a nice remote self-destruct button?

If all operatives get killed during a mission(which is a possibility, albeit my super squads never fail :D) the transport could blow up.(in the original game you would lose the ship either way.Someone at the base could do this...I sure hope the cleaning personnel don't push the wrong one when dusting the instalations :explode: ). heck..If all of my men die I don't want those damn aliens to analise my technology nor do I want to see my brand new avenger for sale at Ethereal Jack Used Ships Emporium....

Just an idea for added realism, though..not a big gameplay issue...

Edited by Tenebrae, 18 December 2003 - 09:56 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2003 - 06:39 AM

This goes to the laboratory, until then it is closed topic...

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 04:45 PM

The ships usually landed in a populated area. I don't think they would be arming and detonating a bomb in a residential zone.

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 07:31 PM

Well, in a terror site, most of the civilians are dead anyway (if your team was killed off) so I don't imagine that it would hurt too much...
Besides, do you want to see your shiny new avenger lying on the alien base's chopshop floor? :)
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Posted 19 December 2003 - 08:00 PM

I got a better idea, how bout if your really doing good in the alien ship, but your taking a while, (an it was an undamaged landed, or had at least one reactor left) the surviving aliens could rig their ship to blow sky high, taking all the E-115, guns, and your best rookies with it. maybe you'd have a coupla turns warning to get out. On a related note, maybe you'd be able to remove the fuel during the tactical game, shut down the enemy power sources, so they cant blow you up plus if you withdraw, they cant fly away. Of course you'd have to have researched Power Source.
I just thought it was more likely they'd blow themselves up than you blowing up your own avenger/base.
But that's just me...

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Posted 20 December 2003 - 05:14 PM

Hmmm, that IS a good idea... but v1+ unfortunately.... alas
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Posted 21 December 2003 - 07:16 AM

no way! Elerium 115 is hard enough to get enough of as it is, no blowing UFO reactors please :whatwhat:

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Posted 21 December 2003 - 08:19 AM

I agree with Whitewashed. I never seem to have enough elerium.
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Posted 21 December 2003 - 08:49 AM

I never seem to have enough elerium.

That's wierd, I always seem to have too much! If you let the UFOs land (which they always do, except for retaliation) you will always get Elerium. As long as you go easy on the rocket launchers and grenades, you'll have more than you would know what to do with! :D
I have 2,000 Elerium to spare, in my Beginner game. I don't have any money to build anything, though... :hammer:


--Edit: I think the aliens would only blow up their ship if it'll never fly again. It'd give some incentive to go easy on the Avalanches. :rolleyes: --

Edited by Robo Dojo 58, 21 December 2003 - 08:55 AM.

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Posted 21 December 2003 - 09:59 PM

well, just to clarify, I ment if there's like two aliens left and all the other's were horribbly killed. Then the aliens realizing that they're going to die, decide to take a few damn dirty apes(people) with them. But if it's a fully loaded battleship packed full of mutons, they'll just laugh whie they kick your donkey back to the stoneage

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Posted 14 February 2004 - 09:14 PM

don't want those damn aliens to analise my technology nor do I want to see my brand new avenger for sale at Ethereal Jack Used Ships Emporium....

ssssshhhhhh don't give them ideas
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Posted 15 February 2004 - 01:36 AM

perhaps only allow the option when attacking alien bases.

Like out of stargate: We have the utmost confidence in your success, but just incase, we want you to take this tactical nuke with you.

This would provide a viable reprieve if the player was loosing.

True he could also send a skyranger with one rookie to the base and blow it up, but that would cost a rookie, and a skyranger, and of course he would ahve to think about the stuff he wouldn't get (elerium/alien commander's etc.)

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Posted 15 February 2004 - 01:38 AM

Version 1+ could even have an option in the buy screen for a small nuclear device ($1.5m) so that the player could buy his way out of a bad month with the funding nations by blowing up a lot of bases.

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Posted 15 February 2004 - 05:47 AM

The alien base is underground and I don't think the Skyranger could go down there


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Posted 15 February 2004 - 06:20 AM

uh oh, big booba! :explode:

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Posted 15 February 2004 - 07:52 AM

Throw the nuke onto a HWP, and cart it to the center of the alien base. Then, BOOM! :explode:
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My first order of business: Homeless people make cheap rookies, and are great at opening UFO doors. Heck, they're so cheap, I'm going to replace all personel with them!
Secondly: This organisation takes too much money to run. Weapon shipments will come from Siberia from now on. Costly maintenance is to be cut on all facilities. That includes venting.
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Posted 15 February 2004 - 06:53 PM

speaking of nukes why not use them on mars? I don't believe anyone really cares what happens to mars but it would give you one heck of an advantage on the mission to mars mission.

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Posted 16 February 2004 - 01:53 PM

sounds logical... why not nuke earth away, so the aliens don't get anything from it too? sounds like a normal functioning human mind...
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Posted 16 February 2004 - 02:54 PM

Well, if you just nuked mars, what would be the final mission?
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Posted 16 February 2004 - 03:50 PM

Version 1+ could even have an option in the buy screen for a small nuclear device ($1.5m) so that the player could buy his way out of a bad month with the funding nations by blowing up a lot of bases.


Thats not a bad idea, I like it.

Or place it on a plane and if it's too much damaged you could ram the ufo and take it down with the nuke.

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Posted 16 February 2004 - 04:07 PM

Or place it on a plane and if it's too much damaged you could ram the ufo and take it down with the nuke.

Yeah, I'm so rich, I can defeat the entire alien menace by ramming their UFOs full of nuclear Avengers. :D

Hmm... if there were agents aboard, do you get to do a mission mid-flight? Half a turn would be neat, just as the nuke goes off. :explode:
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Thirdly: We have a new colonel. His name is Facehugger, he loves aliens, and I want you all to treat him with respect.
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Posted 16 February 2004 - 04:23 PM

Yeah, I'm so rich, I can defeat the entire alien menace by ramming their UFOs full of nuclear Avengers.


Nobody would be stupid enough to do this with an avenger full of guys. ^_^
But with a Interceptor or a Firestorm it could be acceptable.

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Posted 16 February 2004 - 07:25 PM

the disadvantage of course would be no alien technology, so its a win/lose situation which is actually quite balanced

Yeah, I'm so rich, I can defeat the entire alien menace by ramming their UFOs full of nuclear Avengers.


why do this when you can buy a tactical cruise missile ($500,000)

Edited by MagicAndy, 16 February 2004 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2004 - 07:28 PM

The aliens can shoot down a cruise missile, but they can't shoot down an avenger before it hits them! :D
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Posted 17 February 2004 - 03:06 AM

How about (EXAGERATING :blink: ) a N-Bomb. We shoot it to the alien base destroing all aliens but since the N-Bomb doesn't destroy buildings.... VOILA!! ^_^ A new alien base at you disposal. U could take some schematics of new wep's then take to the bases for research. But then again... raiding alien bases would be too easy. -_-

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Posted 17 February 2004 - 08:53 AM

You mean a neutron bomb? Well, alien bases are underground, right? And they are coated in alien alloys (which I presume can resist radiation because they are used in space ship construction) so a neutron bomb wouldn't be that effective. Remember that in space, there is all sorts of radioactive crap floating around.
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Posted 17 February 2004 - 09:44 AM

Neutrons are different from gamma radiation. Gamma rays are a form of light, and neutrons are ultra-high-speed bits of atoms.
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Posted 17 February 2004 - 10:42 AM

The "radiation" in outer space includes high energy particles, so if alien alloy walls keep that stuff out in the UFOs, then they should also shield from neutrons (at least somewhat).
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Posted 17 February 2004 - 10:44 AM

How about (EXAGERATING  ) a N-Bomb. We shoot it to the alien base destroing all aliens but since the N-Bomb doesn't destroy buildings.... VOILA!!  A new alien base at you disposal. U could take some schematics of new wep's then take to the bases for research. But then again... raiding alien bases would be too easy. 


Yeah! it would be more of a Gamma ray bomb that could do that. ^_^

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Posted 17 February 2004 - 12:22 PM

Gamma ray bomb? :o In an alien base? Haven't you seen "The Hulk"? Gamma radiation is nothing but trouble! :P
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Secondly: This organisation takes too much money to run. Weapon shipments will come from Siberia from now on. Costly maintenance is to be cut on all facilities. That includes venting.
Thirdly: We have a new colonel. His name is Facehugger, he loves aliens, and I want you all to treat him with respect.
Lastly: I'll be in my condo on an undisclosed island, if you need me. Good day.

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#31 kelfka

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Posted 17 February 2004 - 03:16 PM

Gamma ray bomb?  In an alien base? Haven't you seen "The Hulk"? Gamma radiation is nothing but trouble!


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Posted 17 February 2004 - 03:29 PM

The alien alloy would still block out gamma rays.
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Posted 17 February 2004 - 05:30 PM

I got another idea, the UFOpedia and everything'll talk about how effective the gamma-bomb will be, but when you set it off, it just turns all the aliens into Mutons.

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Posted 17 February 2004 - 07:29 PM

That would be nice. A bit cheesy though.
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Posted 18 February 2004 - 07:10 AM

Etherial... getting... MAD! *RAWWWRRRRR* :monster:
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Secondly: This organisation takes too much money to run. Weapon shipments will come from Siberia from now on. Costly maintenance is to be cut on all facilities. That includes venting.
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Posted 27 June 2004 - 02:37 AM

considering all the current tech talk about xenium, I wouldn't want to imagine what happens if you set off a bomb that produces ANY kind of radiation inside an alien base with its two or more power sources... the resulting burst of energy would probably have effects far worse than the bomb itself, even if it's a neutron or atomic fission bomb. and I guess we all agree that those are Bad Things, and that the one organization trying to save earth is not going to use them, don't we?
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Posted 27 June 2004 - 02:48 AM

"How about we go down to the Armoury, get one of the Nukes, strap it to my head an Ill headbutt the smeggers into OBLIVION!!"

:devillaugh: Thatd be soooo sweet...

Considering the base is underground, nukes wouldnt kill too many people...plus one man taking out half an Alien base on turn one is pretty cool...

Suicide Bombers come under selfdestruct right?