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#1 kafros

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 10:11 AM

OK, that's the "beta" version, and my FIRST real work in the Creative Department. :hammer:

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Alien Reproduction

In Earth, most multicellular animals, including human beings, reproduce by getting their chromosomes together via sexual intercourse. Then, the fertilized egg is fostered
and protected until fully developed into an offspring.

But, due to X-Com research on salvaged alien artefacts, we now know that the aliens we have to confront with act differently.

Many of the aliens captured by our privates are not only indistinguishable in appearance, but in addition have identical genetic code. Rarely, X-com troops may capture an Alien Reproduction chamber, in an Alien Base or when a Supply Ship is captured. These cells accommodate alien foetuses, which float in a mass of highly nutritional fluid, which ensures the rapid development of the foetus. The design of these cells strongly suggests that the aliens which use this process depend completely on laboratory reproduction. This factory-line system could generate thousands of alien clones in a short period of time.

Unfortunately, human anatomy appears to fit the unit perfectly. Some units accommodate humans or body parts. It is thus possible that this complex process could eventually be adjusted for human reproduction, or even creation of alien-human hybrids. In the past many thousands of people have claimed to have been abducted by aliens, sometimes frequently. The truth is far more horrific. Humans are abducted, examined and observed, and the specimens with are genetically better have their genetic material extracted. Women have human-alien hybrid foetuses implanted, and then obtained several months later.

Then, by operating alien surgery, cybernetic implants are planted in the body of the aliens in order to have available information injected directly into the neonatal brain. Freshly cloned Aliens are brought to these components and have racial memories and all scientific, technical or combat information downloaded into their blank minds.
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P.S: Got any Fluffy text ideas??? :Deal:

Edited by kafros, 16 December 2004 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2004 - 11:08 AM

and the specimens with are genetically better


and the specimens which are genetically better
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 11:51 AM

Hmm. I like the idea, but the text itself needs refinement (which is kinda logical, considering it's the first version).

Some recommendations:

But, due to X-Com research on salvaged alien artefacts, we now know that the aliens we have to confront with act differently.


X-Com is a big No-No.. that's the old name. We've got X-Corps where they have X-Com, check the Names list. It should be somewhere around here. I think.
For some reason, what you're saying in the second part of the sentence only became clear to me after I quoted it, and typed it over... Definitely not upon first-reading. Perhaps this can be expressed more eloquently.

Here's a shot at it:

Recent investigations into the alien reproductive system by X-Corps scientists has indicated that the invaders do not follow this reproduction pattern.


Many of the aliens captured by our privates are


Now, either this is Pun Intended, or my mind is working a bit odd at the moment. I can't help but find it amusing that in an article about reproduction you're talking about privates... Perhaps it would be better to replace this instance with 'troops' or 'field operatives'.

Rarely, X-com troops may capture an Alien Reproduction chamber, in an Alien Base or when a Supply Ship is captured.


Doesn't feel right. I am assuming this research is available only after the Alien Reproduction has been captured, so work with me here for a second:

Our troops have recently managed to capture an Alien Reproduction Chamber during a ground assault operation, consisting of various devices that our operatives in the field could only describe as 'incubators'. A very fitting description it seems, as the devices consist of a nutrition-rich liquid in which foetuses in various states of development were suspended. The liquid seems to ensure a rapid growth of the embryo's inside. We have so far been unsuccesful in removing the liquid from the containers without upsetting the balance; it seems the liquid requires a constant addition of energy by the incubator device.


This text looks promising... I think we'll need to watch out for inconsistency/redundancy with regards to the Alien Surgery entry, though.

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(Watch out: Vulgar Language Ahead... Do not read if offended)
"Johnson, Granger, take position left of the door. Ulli, Carter, right. Jackson, Meeko, you go in when I give the mark"
"Command Acknowledged, Squad Leader, we're moving in..."
"All in position, Sir. Ready to proceed."
"Green to go, move in"
"What the heck is this? Big tanks with.. There's.. bodies here.. Floating. Aliens. Oh sh##, there's one of us in there!"

Ground Assault Team Alpha - Mission Log, April 29 2001. AKA "Dark Thursday"

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Edited by kander, 16 December 2004 - 12:03 PM.

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 01:56 PM

Thanks for all these useful remarks pal :)

(Watch out: Vulgar Language Ahead... Do not read if offended)
"Johnson, Granger, take position left of the door. Ulli, Carter, right. Jackson, Meeko, you go in when I give the mark"
"Command Acknowledged, Squad Leader, we're moving in..."
"All in position, Sir. Ready to proceed."
"Green to go, move in"
"What the heck is this? Big tanks with.. There's.. bodies here.. Floating. Aliens. Oh sh##, there's one of us in there!"

Ground Assault Team Alpha - Mission Log, April 29 2001. AKA "Dark Thursday"

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Vulgar???? Where is that? The word "sh!t"? What about saying "Oh Gee-jus!!!"? ;D
Well, non-christians will also be offended... :hmmm:

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 02:16 PM

Vulgar lenguage in a fluff text is not incorrect, the text is quoting the soldiers, can you expect everyone to talk not vulgar?

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Posted 16 December 2004 - 02:26 PM

And, don't forget that a soldier puts his life into danger. He only wants to complete the mission and to survive, not to talk in formal English ;). And, as Azrael said, that "vulgar sentence" was told by a soldier, not a scientist.

But, on the other hand, you don't expect a little child to play Xenocide. Even if it does, more childs say much worse words that these even when too young (it's a bad world out there... :P )

Anyway, we try to keep a high language level and quality during the report, that's indeed the main purpose :)

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 07:13 PM

Well, it's kinda. . .discomforting that little kids who don't know words like that would be reading about reproduction. You'd think that the people who would really appreciate this kind of game would be old enough. The point is, this is fluff text, and it's fluffy, so it should be alright.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 09:38 PM

I am not sure about the Humans fitting in, the player might start wondering why aren't we using it to obtain infinite number of soldiers. It just mixes up a lot of aspects that I wouldn't like to include here.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:42 AM

"One of us in there" sounds wrong. using a direct name would much better suit our purposes. ie "Hey, its that guy who went missing from skyranger 1 last week!"

and we avoid the vulgar as well
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:50 AM

I am not sure about the Humans fitting in, the player might start wondering why aren't we using it to obtain infinite number of soldiers. It just mixes up a lot of aspects that I wouldn't like to include here.

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One could just say that's unethical, maybe somewhere in the description. After Dolly the sheep, I think that's quite established.

In Earth, most multicellular animals, including human beings, reproduce by getting their chromosomes together via sexual intercourse. Then, the fertilized egg is fostered and protected until fully developed into an offspring.

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The term "sexual intercourse" seems inappropriate from a science point of view. Often it refers exclusively to humans. When other mammals do it, biologists call it "mating". The physical activity known as "mating" is not present in many animal species. Many aquatic species like frogs, corals, some types fish do not "mate" in the strict sense of the word. The females would lay eggs and the males would spray their stuff over the eggs. In the case of corals, males and females just spray their stuff into the water and hope for the best. And the young are left to fend for themselves.

Just my two cent's worth. Something to think about. :beer:

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:50 AM

"One of us in there" sounds wrong.  using a direct name would much better suit our purposes.  ie "Hey, its that guy who went missing from skyranger 1 last week!"

and we avoid the vulgar as well

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Since when do we avoid vulgar? :P
Anyway, Kafros, read this http://www.xcomufo.c...?showtopic=2724 the Alien Ventriculant is very involved in Alien Reproduction. Hope it helps :)

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:52 AM

I am not sure about the Humans fitting in, the player might start wondering why aren't we using it to obtain infinite number of soldiers. It just mixes up a lot of aspects that I wouldn't like to include here.

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One could just say that's unethical, maybe somewhere in the description. After Dolly the sheep, I think that's quite established.

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Well, it's a war for the very existence of our species, so I'd go with the X-Corps Commander not caring less about ethics in a moment like that.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 01:04 AM

Skyranger = :NoNo:

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 01:19 AM

XC-11 Condor.... i wrote the ently, you'd think i would remember :innocent:
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 01:34 AM

http://www.xcomufo.c...?showtopic=2724 the Alien Ventriculant is very involved in Alien Reproduction. Hope it helps :)

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Thanks for the link pal. Unfortunately, in order to provide these information (cell regeneration etc), verticulant and verticulant autopsy research must have already been conducted before alien reproduction.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 01:44 AM

All right, let's shoot ahead! Beta 2.

Alien Reproduction

In Earth, many mammals (including humans), reproduce by getting their chromosomes together via mating. Then, the fertilized egg is fostered and protected until fully developed into an offspring.

X-Corps research conducted on alien reproduction was more than a surprise though. It is clear that the alien invaders do not follow this reproduction pattern, as most of the aliens captured by X-Corps field operatives are unable to reproduce for multiple reasons (were born without reproductive organs, had their reproductive organs removed etc)

Our troops have recently managed to capture an Alien Reproduction Chamber during a ground assault operation, consisting of various devices that our operatives in the field could only describe as 'incubators'. A very fitting description it seems, as the devices consist of a nutrition-rich liquid in which foetuses in various states of development were suspended. The liquid seems to ensure a rapid growth of the embryo's inside. We have so far been unsuccessful in removing the liquid from the containers without upsetting the balance; it seems the liquid requires a constant addition of energy by the incubator device. The design of these cells strongly suggests that the aliens which use this process depend completely on laboratory reproduction. This factory-line system could generate thousands of alien clones in a short period of time.

Unfortunately, human anatomy appears to fit the unit perfectly. Some units accommodate humans or body parts. It is thus possible that this complex process could eventually be adjusted for human reproduction, or even creation of alien-human hybrids. In the past many thousands of people have claimed to have been abducted by aliens, sometimes frequently. The truth is far more horrific. Humans are abducted, examined and observed, and the specimens which are genetically better have their genetic material extracted. Women have human-alien hybrid foetuses implanted, and then obtained several months later.

Further research has also shown that these incubators also have a device which plants cybernetic implants in the brain of the freshly-cloned aliens. With a specific procedure, these components upload racial memories and all scientific, technical or combat information into the blank mind of the reproduced creatures.

The possibility of using these devices in order to provide rapid production of X-Corps soldiers has been rejected due to a variety of problems, both technical and ethnical.

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Fluffy texts:

1)

Sergeant Spoons: Johnson, Granger, take position left of the door. Olli, Carter, right. Jackson, Meeko, you go in when I give the mark"
Granger: Command Acknowledged, Squad Leader, we're moving in...
Johnson: All set, Sir. Ready to proceed.
Sergeant Spoons: Green to go, move in
Carter: Damn, what the heck is this room?
Olli: Big tanks with floating alien bodies… and embryos! Ugh!
Meeko: DAMMIT, IS THAT GORDON’S HEAD IN THAT TANK?
Jackson: Gee-jus, I'm gonna throw up...

Ground Assault Team Alpha - Mission Log, April 29 2001. AKA "Dark Thursday"

2)
- That’s some interesting stuff! Perfect conditions for foetuses… Marvelous…
- Emm, James….
- Go on Joe.
- Could we use these incubators in order to clone chicks?
- <…>. You need some gooood holidays, Joe. Go see your wife.

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What do you think? :hmmm:

Edited by kafros, 18 December 2004 - 01:48 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2004 - 09:10 AM

You can't just use someones random name. we must have a reason. Someone could(common sense wouldn't let this) think that Gordon is from the current mission. You must provide some info on that topic. And the soldiers sound almost as if they are exasperated. As in dangit, he's in teh tank again. Well lets just get him out now.
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 09:48 AM

I understood it, "GORDON'S HEAD" made me laugh a lot; but then again "sigh, gordon's head is in the tank again..." is pretty damn funny too hahaha.

'but seriously folks'...

reproduce by getting their chromosomes together via mating.


makes the whole act seem so...boring :MakeOut:. Plus I'm pretty sure the word combining or some such more descriptive word would sound better here, but thats just a minor point.

Also are there going to be human-alien hybrids??? if not then I don't think we should lead the player on with that line.



Last line: ethnical => ethical

otherwise looks good!

Edited by JakeDrake, 18 December 2004 - 09:49 AM.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 02:30 PM

I understood it, "GORDON'S HEAD" made me laugh a lot; but then again "sigh, gordon's head is in the tank again..." is pretty damn funny too hahaha.


Made you laugh??? While writing, I imagined the head of that soldier named gordon (random name) in that tank, maybe with a scared look (he was alive when mutilated)
Though about that drink (Vodka I think) called "Gordon" ??

makes the whole act seem so...boring


That's mating! Male gamete + female gamete -> Zygote . it's a miracle of biology. Well, s3x is also something NOT BORING at all, but, you only find it interesting because your brain makes you think it is interesting... This is us: Chemical bonds and electrical connections. OLH H EKGEFALIKH BIOMAZA SE ORGIO!!! ;)

Also are there going to be human-alien hybrids??? if not then I don't think we should lead the player on with that line.

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This makes the player think, and imagine (i.e. Murlocks... :))

Edited by kafros, 22 December 2004 - 10:08 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2004 - 02:39 PM

1) Um yeah it did...was that not supposed to be funny? :uhoh: haha

2) Yeah but I think that "getting the chromosomes together" is better replaced by "combining chromosones", but whatev.

3) k Morlocks, understand now thanks.

Edited by JakeDrake, 18 December 2004 - 02:39 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 02:46 PM

2)  Yeah but I think that "getting the chromosomes together" is better replaced by "combining chromosones", but whatev.

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Understood that before, and I agree with ya! I will correct it ;)

Anything else? :Coffee:

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 02:49 PM

You can't just use someones random name.  we must have a reason.  Someone could(common sense wouldn't let this) think that Gordon is from the current mission.  You must provide some info on that topic.  And the soldiers sound almost as if they are exasperated.  As in dangit, he's in teh tank again.  Well lets just get him out now.

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The new soldiers you bought in X-Com had the names they had for a specific reason? I don't think so :\

Anyway, most of these names actually sound good. I like "Gordons". I could have put "Karamitros" (POU PAS RE KARAMHTRO?! ;) :D)

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 03:45 PM

why not just say "Oh my Gosh, its that guy who went missing last week!"

it is just sounds better to me
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 04:38 PM

it is just sounds better to me

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As you wish pal, no problem with that :Hug:

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 04:40 PM

I think that's the final. Shoot ahead people! ;)

Alien Reproduction

In Earth, many mammals (including humans), reproduce by combining chromosomes via mating. Then, the fertilized egg is fostered and protected until fully developed into an offspring.

X-Corps research conducted on alien reproduction was more than a surprise though. It is clear that the alien invaders do not follow this reproduction pattern, as most of the aliens captured by X-Corps field operatives are unable to reproduce for multiple reasons (were born without reproductive organs, had their reproductive organs removed etc)

Our troops have recently managed to capture an Alien Reproduction Chamber during a ground assault operation, consisting of various devices that our operatives in the field could only describe as 'incubators'. A very fitting description it seems, as the devices consist of a nutrition-rich liquid in which foetuses in various states of development were suspended. The liquid seems to ensure a rapid growth of the embryo's inside. We have so far been unsuccessful in removing the liquid from the containers without upsetting the balance; it seems the liquid requires a constant addition of energy by the incubator device. The design of these cells strongly suggests that the aliens which use this process depend completely on laboratory reproduction. This factory-line system could generate thousands of alien clones in a short period of time.

Unfortunately, human anatomy appears to fit the unit perfectly. Some units accommodate humans or body parts. It is thus possible that this complex process could eventually be adjusted for human reproduction, or even creation of alien-human hybrids. In the past many thousands of people have claimed to have been abducted by aliens, sometimes frequently. The truth is far more horrific. Humans are abducted, examined and observed, and the specimens which are genetically better have their genetic material extracted. Women have human-alien hybrid foetuses implanted, and then obtained several months later.

Further research has also shown that these incubators also have a device which plants cybernetic implants in the brain of the freshly-cloned aliens. With a specific procedure, these components upload racial memories and all scientific, technical or combat information into the blank mind of the reproduced creatures.

The possibility of using these devices in order to provide rapid production of X-Corps soldiers has been rejected due to a variety of problems, both technical and ethical.


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Sergeant Spoons: Johnson, Granger, take position left of the door. Olli, Carter, right. Jackson, Meeko, you go in when I give the mark"
Granger: Command Acknowledged, Squad Leader, we're moving in...
Johnson: All set, Sir. Ready to proceed.
Sergeant Spoons: Green to go, move in
Carter: Damn, what the heck is this room?
Olli: Big tanks with floating alien bodies… and embryos! Ugh!
Meeko: Oh Gosh… its that rookie who went missing last week!

Ground Assault Team Alpha - Mission Log, April 29 2001. AKA "Dark Thursday"

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 04:48 PM

okay, good, i'll proof it and put it up for grabs
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 04:57 PM

Alien Reproduction

On Earth, many mammals (including humans) reproduce by combining chromosomes via mating. Then, the fertilized egg is fostered and protected until fully developed into an offspring.

X-Corps research conducted on alien reproduction was more than a surprise though. It is clear that the alien invaders do not follow this reproduction pattern, as most of the aliens captured by X-Corps field operatives are unable to reproduce for multiple reasons (were born without reproductive organs, had their reproductive organs removed etc)

Our troops have recently managed to capture an Alien Reproduction Chamber during a ground assault operation, consisting of various devices that our operatives in the field could only describe as 'incubators'. A very fitting description it seems, as the devices consist of a nutrition-rich liquid in which fetuses in various states of development were suspended. The liquid seems to ensure a rapid growth of the embryos inside. We have so far been unsuccessful in removing the liquid from the containers without upsetting the balance; it seems the liquid requires a constant addition of energy by the incubator device. The design of these cells strongly suggests that the aliens that use this process depend completely on laboratory reproduction. This factory-line system could generate thousands of alien clones in a short period of time.

Unfortunately, the device seems to be easily modified to fit human body parts or even entire human bodies. Many humans and body parts have been found, many with strange genetic mutations and deformations, meaning the aliens use this technology to clone abducted humans. Many of the clones also posses an unknown DNA structure, most likely a mix of alien and human DNA, although some of the human clones seemed to be forming perfectly. It is thus possible that this complex process could eventually be adjusted for human reproduction, or even creation of alien-human hybrids. In the past many thousands of people have claimed to have been abducted by aliens, sometimes frequently. The truth is far more horrific. Humans are abducted, examined and observed, and the specimens that are genetically better have their genetic material extracted. Women have human-alien hybrid fetuses implanted, and then obtained several months later.

Further research has also shown that these incubators also have a device that plants cybernetic implants in the brain of the freshly cloned aliens. With a specific procedure, these components upload racial memories and all scientific, technical or combat information into the blank mind of the reproduced creatures.

The possibility of using these devices in order to provide rapid production of X-Corps soldiers has been rejected due to a variety of problems, both technical and ethical.


----
Sergeant Spoons: Johnson, Granger, take position left of the door. Olli, Carter, right. Jackson, Meeko, you go in when I give the mark"
Granger: Command Acknowledged, Squad Leader, we're moving in.
Johnson: All set, Sir. Ready to proceed.
Sergeant Spoons: Green to go, move in
Carter: Damn, what the heck is this room?
Olli: Big tanks with floating alien bodies… and embryos! Ugh!
Meeko: Oh Gosh… it’s that rookie who went missing last week!

Ground Assault Team Alpha - Mission Log, April 29 2001. AKA "Dark Thursday"



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Posted 18 December 2004 - 07:34 PM

okay, it has been proofed, waiting for final comments.


And Lord Azrael flies in to save the day :D

Now for something more serious....

Doesn't this:

X-Corps research conducted on alien reproduction was more than a surprise though. It is clear that the alien invaders do not follow this reproduction pattern, as most of the aliens captured by X-Corps field operatives are unable to reproduce for multiple reasons (were born without reproductive organs, had their reproductive organs removed etc)


make this:

The design of these cells strongly suggests that the aliens that use this process depend completely on laboratory reproduction.


unnessecary? I mean, if they don't have reproductive organs they how else would they reproduce?

Edit: Fixed those stupid quotes.....

Edited by Hailfire22, 19 December 2004 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 18 December 2004 - 09:21 PM

Looks great to me guys, just a couple suggestions

The whole beginning part of the fluff, with the troop orders and such is kinda unnecessary, most of the other fluffs just cut to the main point, as they should. Fluff is for the player to get a quick laugh or recap out of, it should be short, sweet, and to the point. I think its fine if you would just cut out till the "Oh god" part.

Also, usually it is said "ON Earth" instead of "IN Earth" but thats just nitpicking :)
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Alien Reproduction

On Earth, many mammals (including humans) reproduce by combining chromosomes via mating. Then, the fertilized egg is fostered and protected until fully developed into an offspring.

In fact, all mammals reproduce sexually, they all combine their gametes (chromosomes are within the gametes, be sure to mention them) to form the embryo, actually they form another type of cell which I don’t know the word in English.

X-Corps research conducted on alien reproduction was more than a surprise though. It is clear that the alien invaders do not follow this reproduction pattern, as most of the aliens captured by X-Corps field operatives are unable to reproduce for multiple reasons (were born without reproductive organs, had their reproductive organs removed etc)

Don’t say that the research was a surprise, the research itself is not a surprise; the results are a surprise. What reproduction pattern? You have only mentioned that of the mammals, there are many other species as well and other reproduction patterns, but anyways you cannot generalize the Alien reproductive methods, you have to be a little specific on this, specially since you have a wide range of Alien species; the Vipers reproduce by laying eggs, they can actually reproduce; Terror discs cannot reproduce cause they are not alive, but are Aliens anyway and you have to mention them, even to say that since they are robots they cannot reproduce (yes, sometimes we have to be that specific :)).

Our troops have recently managed to capture an Alien Reproduction Chamber during a ground assault operation, consisting of various devices that our operatives in the field could only describe as 'incubators'. A very fitting description it seems, as the devices consist of a nutrition-rich liquid in which fetuses in various states of development were suspended. The liquid seems to ensure a rapid growth of the embryos inside. We have so far been unsuccessful in removing the liquid from the containers without upsetting the balance; it seems the liquid requires a constant addition of energy by the incubator device. The design of these cells strongly suggests that the aliens that use this process depend completely on laboratory reproduction. This factory-line system could generate thousands of alien clones in a short period of time.

Don’t have it be “thousands of alien clones in a short period of time”, that’s a bit too much IMO, they could literally run us over, “hundreds” or maybe even “dozens” is careful enough. Also, IMHO you should have the Aliens reproduce from Mars itself, the Aliens later could bring here the growing embryos, but the whole process would take place there, that would save us a few problems. The information could be gathered from the embryos’ containment devices and data from computers. But to be honest I don’t like the idea of having several Alien Reproduction Chambers laying around Alien bases.

Unfortunately, the device seems to be easily modified to fit human body parts or even entire human bodies. Many humans and body parts have been found, many with strange genetic mutations and deformations, meaning the aliens use this technology to clone abducted humans. Many of the clones also posses an unknown DNA structure, most likely a mix of alien and human DNA, although some of the human clones seemed to be forming perfectly. It is thus possible that this complex process could eventually be adjusted for human reproduction, or even creation of alien-human hybrids. In the past many thousands of people have claimed to have been abducted by aliens, sometimes frequently. The truth is far more horrific. Humans are abducted, examined and observed, and the specimens that are genetically better have their genetic material extracted. Women have human-alien hybrid fetuses implanted, and then obtained several months later.

This is something I am totally against, please don’t take it personally, I just don’t like the idea of having Humans be able to reproduce by these machines. The commander would most likely to have the devices produce endless troops (“who cares about ethics???, the damn things are going to kill us all if we don’t stop them!, gimme more troops!!” –Xcorps Commander), also, it practically eliminates the need for Ventriculants, these creatures are used for reproduction, but with these chambers, they are not needed at all, it has to be fixed that.

Further research has also shown that these incubators also have a device that plants cybernetic implants in the brain of the freshly cloned aliens. With a specific procedure, these components upload racial memories and all scientific, technical or combat information into the blank mind of the reproduced creatures.

I like this, I’ve thought of this before, but we’ll see about this when we sort out the thing with the rep. chambers

The possibility of using these devices in order to provide rapid production of X-Corps soldiers has been rejected due to a variety of problems, both technical and ethical.

Scrap ethics, they don’t count in a war for the planet itself, if the problems are technical, be more precise about which are they, because it’d be in contradiction with para 4, where you state that they can be easily modified to fit Humans.


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Edited by Azrael, 19 December 2004 - 12:56 AM.


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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:51 AM

http://www.xcomufo.c...?showtopic=2724 the Alien Ventriculant is very involved in Alien Reproduction. Hope it helps :)

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Thanks for the link pal. Unfortunately, in order to provide these information (cell regeneration etc), verticulant and verticulant autopsy research must have already been conducted before alien reproduction.

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Oh no, I wasn't saying that you mention them directly, just hint, ya know? like that there have been detected foreign cells that are all perfectly equal in all alien species, like if they were a bar code or something.
That is the true difficulty of writing CTs which are involved with others, you have to learn to link them together without exactly mention them. So when the player researches Ventriculant he goes like "ohhhh, this is what the Alien Reproduction entry was talking about!"
Ya get my meaning? :)

okay, it has been proofed, waiting for final comments

Damnit, be patient blehm, good writings take time, they are not done from one day to another :NoNo:

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:59 AM

thats why i said waiting for final comments. It is already pretty good, i jsut need final comments so i can proof it again, implementing them.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 02:11 AM

okay, it has been proofed, waiting for final comments

unnessecary? I mean, if they don't have reproductive organs they how else would they reproduce?

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Well, they could have some "Reproduction aliens" in their bases, something like the "Xenomorph queen" ;). The aliens we meet would be the childer, whose purpose is only to do what they were born to do (war, research, engineering)

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 02:17 AM

Well, according to Azrael's suggestions, I should change the main idea behind Alien Reproduction... I'll see what I can do :\

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 09:37 AM

Damnit, be patient blehm, good writings take time, they are not done from one day to another  :NoNo:

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Azrael, could you pleaaaassssseeeee put that in your sig??? It's almost like you live it :wink1: :wink1:

Well, they could have some "Reproduction aliens" in their bases, something like the "Xenomorph queen" . The aliens we meet would be the childer, whose purpose is only to do what they were born to do (war, research, engineering)

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That is possible.....but I don't quite see it happening. These guys seem like they would want soldier being pumped out constantly and efficiently, which the xenomorph queen idea isn't quite what I'd say "easy"(and in the cast of the xenomorphs, very in-efficient. Why not just evolve to use your host over and over instead of killing it for every one birth?).

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 10:14 AM

Azrael, could you pleaaaassssseeeee put that in your sig??? It's almost like you live it  :wink1:  :wink1:


Hhmm, is that a complaint? :P Anyways, that's how it's done, you can't expect someone to write a perfect text in one shot, it always takes feedback and many rewrites, I also had to rewrite my own a lot, I don't think this one is ready for "final comments".

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 11:00 AM

"by getting their chromosomes together"
hehehe, sorry.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 01:16 PM

Azrael, could you pleaaaassssseeeee put that in your sig??? It's almost like you live it  :wink1:  :wink1:


Hhmm, is that a complaint? :P Anyways, that's how it's done, you can't expect someone to write a perfect text in one shot, it always takes feedback and many rewrites, I also had to rewrite my own a lot, I don't think this one is ready for "final comments".

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No, it's a complament! :P Without it we would have half done CTs, what would we do then?!?!?! :( (Maybe something like this ---> :Drool: )

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 03:29 PM

Why not just evolve to use your host over and over instead of killing it for every one birth?).


I didn't say that. I meant something like parthenogenesis. Like bees! The queen "gives birth" to the other aliens, which become all kinds of aliens (due to specific RNA inserted in the foetus from the queen) ;)

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 04:37 PM

Why not just evolve to use your host over and over instead of killing it for every one birth?).


I didn't say that. I meant something like parthenogenesis. Like bees! The queen "gives birth" to the other aliens, which become all kinds of aliens (due to specific RNA inserted in the foetus from the queen) ;)

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That's an interesting approach, like a Ventriculant Queen? The Aliens put DNA material into her and a brand new Alien sprouts from her! :)

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 06:32 PM

mmm... isn't a change like that gonna require opening back up some CTDs that have already been completed for a while? Maybe we should just work around whats been "completed" instead of changing other CTDs to make it easier to finish one. Just a suggestion, cuz I personally really like the ventriculant CTD :innocent:
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 06:57 PM

Why not just evolve to use your host over and over instead of killing it for every one birth?).


I didn't say that. I meant something like parthenogenesis. Like bees! The queen "gives birth" to the other aliens, which become all kinds of aliens (due to specific RNA inserted in the foetus from the queen) ;)

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I know that's what you were talking about, I was just drifting off on a rant about the xenomorphs from the Alien movies :D

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 07:14 PM

mmm... isn't a change like that gonna require opening back up some CTDs that have already been completed for a while?  Maybe we should just work around whats been "completed" instead of changing other CTDs to make it easier to finish one.  Just a suggestion, cuz I personally really like the ventriculant CTD  :innocent:

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A Ventriculant Queen isn't too far from the CT Ventriculant, but the player might expect to see the queen at some point, so don't mind that idea. But JakeDrake is right, you should not drift from the existant CTs.

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 08:06 AM

That means I should read ALL completed CTDs?!?!?! :sorry: :Tantrum: :Tantrum: :Tantrum:

Well, it's high time we said "Stop Talking, start Working" <-- Nice one, right Hailfire??? :P;) :Hug:

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 09:28 AM

That means I should read ALL completed CTDs?!?!?! :sorry:  :Tantrum:  :Tantrum:  :Tantrum: 

Well, it was high time we said "Stop Talking, start Working" <-- Nice one, right Hailfire??? :P;) :Hug:

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Yes, yes indeed..... :D

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 12:06 PM

Naw, you dont have to read them all, thats what the old folks are here for. They point out conflicts when you submit a entry. Just try to read the relevant once. k?
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 02:10 PM

Naw, you dont have to read them all, thats what the old folks are here for. They point out conflicts when you submit a entry. Just try to read the relevant once. k?

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Well, I'll have to read Alien Surgery, Alien Abductions, all/most Alien/Alien autopsy entries... that's some nice stuff. I could just put your corrections as you provide them, but good work needs personal effort/time. Just gimme some time (and "elder advice" ;) :D)

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 09:28 AM

Also, IMHO you should have the Aliens reproduce from Mars itself, the Aliens later could bring here the growing embryos, but the whole process would take place there, that would save us a few problems. The information could be gathered from the embryos’ containment devices and data from computers. But to be honest I don’t like the idea of having several Alien Reproduction Chambers laying around Alien bases.


- Maaars? What is thaaaaaaat?
- Have you ever heard about something called "the martian solution"?? :WTF:
- Naaaah. Can you eat it??? :Hyper:

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:JK: . But, we have to admit that Alien Reproduction will be reasearched somewhere around 40% of the game. You will first listen about Mars at ~85%. It's a bit TOO far... I will just say that the "alien eggs" are propably fertilised in alien bases, and then grown either in bases or ships. And, DON'T WORRY, I WILL TALK ABOUT VERTICULANTS! :wink1: :D

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 09:35 AM

Well, as I see from the Verticulant CTD, I HAVE (and in addition I want ^_^) to add info about the Verticulants. And, I think that it will be the basis of my CTD. But, in order to research the Alien Production CTD, the player will have to research the Verticulant one (or even the autopsy) first. That's not a problem, right? :sorry:

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Posted 21 December 2004 - 04:03 PM

I said put the damn Ventriculants in!!!!!, oh, good then, carry on :P , about the Tech Tree organisation, you will have to contact the leader.