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#1 Mad

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 05:42 PM

First draw. The EG Health ministers: "Might contain scandalous Xenium effects" :P

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Alien anti-gravity technology we could recover from several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the XC-2 Starfire Concept. Based on this reactor a complete redesign was calculated to minimize used space and consumption of Xenium. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal in Xenium depletion.
Since only a relative small anti-gravitational effect is needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy. After several tests, we decided to use the same hydrogen nanotube containment block already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the minor output of this reactor type. The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the piezo-crystal like structure pure Xenium crystals show. While we knew before Xenium shows an behaviour similar to the piezo effect when treated with AC power, we now discovered, that this effect is connected to the Anti-gravitational forces unleashed in the Xenium reactors.
Using a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an AC output of Ueff = 2000 kV at f = 40kHz we were able to produce a anti gravitational field strong enough to lift a mass of 2 tons up to 30 meter.
After running several tests with this new equipment we were able to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field. 
The XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its Autonomous Command/Control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs.
The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien alloys, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or shells and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.

With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculats on their own level.


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Posted 20 September 2005 - 11:26 PM

very nice! I especially like the explanations for the low xenium use :) it does get a bit technical, though, perhaps reduce the amount of numbers in there, don't get too specific.

I would also change the reference to piezo crystals a bit, because afaik piezo effect is quite specifically defined as static electric effect created by compression of material... this xenium property is only "somehow reminiscent" of piezo effects, if you ask me.

oh, and one small inconsistency nitpick: for the XCAP-AG, you don't need to have researched the XC-2, only UFO construction, and you get them immediately once you finish that, so no reference to the XC-2 should be in there :D
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 02:39 AM

very nice! I especially like the explanations for the low xenium use :) it does get a bit technical, though, perhaps reduce the amount of numbers in there, don't get too specific.

:( But i loooove to be like that! :)
Help! OMG someone! He is trying to steal my numbers! :P

I would also change the reference to piezo crystals a bit, because afaik piezo effect is quite specifically defined as static electric effect created by compression of material... this xenium property is only "somehow reminiscent" of piezo effects, if you ask me.

Well, not the full truth. It's also vice versa, meaning if you connect a piezo crystal to ac power, then it starts to pulse (thats the effect used in quarzes), and this is the effect I'm referring to.

oh, and one small inconsistency nitpick: for the XCAP-AG, you don't need to have researched the XC-2, only UFO construction, and you get them immediately once you finish that, so no reference to the XC-2 should be in there :D

oops. Then I misread the Techtree. But np, I'll just edit it out in the next version. Thx!

Edited by Mad, 21 September 2005 - 02:46 AM.

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 03:02 AM

I would also change the reference to piezo crystals a bit, because afaik piezo effect is quite specifically defined as static electric effect created by compression of material... this xenium property is only "somehow reminiscent" of piezo effects, if you ask me.

Well, not the full truth. It's also vice versa, meaning if you connect a piezo crystal to ac power, then it starts to pulse (thats the effect used in quarzes), and this is the effect I'm referring to.


yes, true, but still, noone is squeezing the Xenium, and the effect created is not a pulsing of the xenium, so it is not truly piezoelectricity. the effect here is not mechanical, but spacetime bending, and piezo crystals can't do that :D
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 03:09 AM

yes, true, but still, noone is squeezing the Xenium, and the effect created is not a pulsing of the xenium, so it is not truly piezoelectricity. the effect here is not mechanical, but spacetime bending, and piezo crystals can't do that :D

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ahh, don't be like that. :P Actually, I thought it might really pulse and, as a side effect bend all laws of physics and bend space-time :P
But serious, you think the comparison to piezo is not appropriate? Then how to explain it better? just leaving out piezo might make it much more difficult to understand and not that plastic. I didn’t say it works like piezo, just that something similar is happening. You know, not every crystal is behaving in some way if you plug it to AC.
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 05:06 AM

spacetime vibration? cosmic harmonies bending space? quantum piezo effect?
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 05:17 AM

spacetime vibration? cosmic harmonies bending space? quantum piezo effect?
:D

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yap, exactly! how did you know? :P
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 02:37 PM

1) I wouldn't say that the additional energy supply is a disadvantage of this technology. The same problem (and definitely MUCH worse) exists for all machines :P. Thus, just say that "we managed to deal with this blah blah problem with this blah blah solution blah blah blah..."

2) Numbers are bad! Really bad! I feel bored :P

3) You don't mention WHY this machine is safe. There is a Xenium reactor there :P. Maybe add that the "alien alloy armor carefully seals the XCAP and doesn't let EM radiation get away". Even a safety-circuit that would stop the reactor in case the XCAP is going to break-down/get destroyed.

That comes to my mind. And sry for not really helping with alternative text, I will be in a hurry from now on due to RL issues :(

Quite nice overall! =b

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Alien anti-gravity technology we could recover from several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the XC-2 Starfire Concept. Based on this reactor a complete redesign was calculated to minimize used space and consumption of Xenium. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal in Xenium depletion. 

Since only a relative small anti-gravitational effect is needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy. After several tests, we decided to use the same hydrogen nanotube containment block already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the minor output of this reactor type. The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the piezo-crystal like structure pure Xenium crystals show. While we knew before Xenium shows an behaviour similar to the piezo effect when treated with AC power, we now discovered, that this effect is connected to the Anti-gravitational forces unleashed in the Xenium reactors. 

Using a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an AC output of Ueff = 2000 kV at f = 40kHz we were able to produce a anti gravitational field strong enough to lift a mass of 2 tons up to 30 meter. After running several tests with this new equipment we were able to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field.  

The XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its Autonomous Command/Control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs. 

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien alloys, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or shells and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.

With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculants on their own level.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 01:58 AM

1) I wouldn't say that the additional energy supply is a disadvantage of this technology. The same problem (and definitely MUCH worse) exists for all machines :P. Thus, just say that "we managed to deal with this blah blah problem with this blah blah solution blah blah blah..."


Since the XCAP-AG is xenium based, it has the disadvantage of carrying additional fule cells compared to other xenium based technologies.

2) Numbers are bad! Really bad! I feel bored :P

But why? This is a scientific report, no short story! :Tantrum: But nevertheless. It seems that noone like these numbers, so I'll take them out. *sniff*

3) You don't mention WHY this machine is safe. There is a Xenium reactor there :P. Maybe add that the "alien alloy armor carefully seals the XCAP and doesn't let EM radiation get away". Even a safety-circuit that would stop the reactor in case the XCAP is going to break-down/get destroyed.


All safety measures concerning the xenium reactor are descripted in the xenium reactor CT written by Moriarty. I wrote so much about safety in the XCAP-Chassis because the hydrogen technology was new at this point.
But maybe I can think of sth. which could be interesting additionally.

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS
[...]

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What the heck did you change? (besides the fluff) Could you please write changed parts in bold in future? Makes reviewing much easier. (no offense) Thx. :)

Edited by Mad, 23 September 2005 - 02:02 AM.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:43 AM

I just put PARAGRAPHS :P, and added the fluffy. There are no bold letters because I didn't change anything, so simple :P

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:52 AM

I just put PARAGRAPHS :P, and added the fluffy. There are no bold letters because I didn't change anything, so simple :P

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Hey, ther were paragraphs... But anyway... thx :)
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 07:44 AM

Rewrote the text to fit Moriartys ideas, highlighted the paragraphs for Kafros ( :P )
Added improved security and a different fluff (which is not rhyming :P )

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the UFO construction Concept. This reactor now was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and usage of Xenium. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal in Xenium depletion.

Since only a relative small anti-gravitational effect is needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy. After several tests, we decided to use the same hydrogen nanotube containment block already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the minor output of this reactor type.
The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the Xenium Crystals. While we knew before that Xenium is folded and materialized spacetime, we now discovered that, although not used like that by the Aliens, it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 10000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an AC output of 2000 kV at 40kHz we were able to produce a floating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.

Expecting no “hard pull movements”, we were able to remove both additional “discs” found in the UFO engine core, still guaranteeing a sufficient reliability and allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field. 

The resulting XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its Autonomous Command/Control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs.

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien alloys, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or shells and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.

With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculats on their own level.

“Hey, you can make a pair of inlines for me?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce


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Posted 23 September 2005 - 09:14 AM

some suggestions :)

btw, I don't really get the fluff. Inlines? as in inline-skates? what does that have to do with it?


XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the UFO Construction concept. This reactor now was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and usage of Xenium. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal <can you believe I never heard this word before?> in Xenium depletion.

Since only a relatively small anti-gravitational effect is needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy. After several tests, we decided to use the same fuel cell and hydrogen nanotube containment block already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the minor output of this reactor type. <what do you mean by this last part?>
The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the Xenium Crystals. While we knew before that Xenium is folded and materialized spacetime, we now discovered that, although not used like that by the Aliens, it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 10000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an AC output of 2000 kV at 40kHz <numbers! :D> we were able to produce a floating <?> magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.

Expecting no “hard pull movements”, we were able to remove both additional “discs” found in the UFO engine core, still guaranteeing a sufficient reliability and allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design.
Since the internal systems of an XCAP are much less fragile than humans or aliens, the protection field as well as the redundant engine core system of the original Xenium Reactor are unnecessary, allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field. 

The resulting XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its autonomous command/control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than, a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs.

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or ammunition and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.

With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculats on their own level.

“Hey, you can make a pair of inlines for me?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce


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Posted 23 September 2005 - 09:32 AM

btw, I don't really get the fluff. Inlines? as in inline-skates? what does that have to do with it?

yap, as in inline skates. Imagine hovering inlines! *dreams*

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS
[...]frugal <can you believe I never heard this word before?> in Xenium depletion.

I can... :) So I suggest http://dict.leo.org/...&search=frugal
:D

[...]After several tests, we decided to use the same fuel cell and hydrogen nanotube containment block already known from the standard XCAP.


Nono, you got it wrong I think. The nanotube containment block is the same as the fuel cell. (see XCAP Chassis)

[...]explaining the minor output of this reactor type. <what do you mean by this last part?>


I meant, the reactor has a smaller anti-grav output than the "UFO-core engine". But I'll try to make this clear in the next draft.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an AC output of 2000 kV at 40kHz <numbers! :D>


Ohhh c'mon! I tried my best! What do you suppose?

we were able to produce a floating <?> magnetic field


Well, i don't know exactly :) I am missing the right words here. I want to say, that due to the AC nature of the powersource the north- and southpole of the magnetic field permanently exchange position. floating is definetly the wrong word, maybe oscillating?


Other changes will be implemented in the next version! :) Thx for the good suggestions! :)
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 11:03 AM

btw, I don't really get the fluff. Inlines? as in inline-skates? what does that have to do with it?

yap, as in inline skates. Imagine hovering inlines! *dreams*


oh, okay... hovering inline skates? sounds dangerous. :) maybe, to make it clearer, say:
“Hey, you can make a pair of hover skates for me?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce

...or maybe a hover skateboard... at least everybody who saw "back to the future" can imagine what that would look like.

we were able to produce a floating <?> magnetic field


Well, i don't know exactly :) I am missing the right words here. I want to say, that due to the AC nature of the powersource the north- and southpole of the magnetic field permanently exchange position. floating is definetly the wrong word, maybe oscillating?


okay, I guess oscillating is the right word. just remember that by applying an alternatig current to a conducting coil, all you get is high resistance :) perhaps think of some more technobabble to explain how they got an oscillating mag field...?
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 01:23 PM

okay, I guess oscillating is the right word. just remember that by applying an alternatig current to a conducting coil, all you get is high resistance :) perhaps think of some more technobabble to explain how they got an oscillating mag field...?

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Yea, I know you're right with this, but what's with supraconducting coils? On the other hand the resistence is produced by the impedance of the coil <-> through the magfield, so maybe there is no change with this...
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Posted 25 September 2005 - 10:22 AM

okay, I guess oscillating is the right word. just remember that by applying an alternatig current to a conducting coil, all you get is high resistance :) perhaps think of some more technobabble to explain how they got an oscillating mag field...?

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Ok, I talked to a physicist, and he meant this wouldn't be a problem. One could easily get an oscillating magnetic field when applying "as low frequencies as 40 kHz" to a coil.
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 03:21 AM

New draft, trying to implement all anotations and recent discussions. :)

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the UFO Construction concept. This reactor was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and usage of Xenium. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal in Xenium depletion.

Since only a relatively small gravitational effect is needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy. After several tests, we decided to use the same fuel cell/hydrogen nanotube containment block unit already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the relatively slender output of this reactor type.
The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the Xenium Crystals. While we knew before that Xenium is folded and materialized spacetime, we now discovered that, although not used like that by the Aliens, it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 10000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.

Since the internal systems of an XCAP are much less fragile than humanoid lifeforms, the protection field as well as the redundant engine core system of the original Xenium Reactor are obsolete, allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field. 

The resulting XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its autonomous command/control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs.

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or ammunition and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.

With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculats on their own level.

“Hey, now you can build this hoverskateboard for me, you know the one from the movie…!?”
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 02:26 PM

I am sorry, but I really do not get a large chunk of this text. I am not a physicist, but a biochemist, and that probably explains a lot, but I feel some of this could be popularised a little.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.


Can't you just say the xenium acts as an inefficent catalyst? That would save a lot of techno - mumbo-jumbo that all non-physicists look at and nod.


it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 10000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis


I will need to look at the X 122 text, but IIRC isn't this something about string theory or quantum physics - neither of which I am particularly knowledgable about.

I don't know if mine, or other texts do this (so if they don't, I apologise for being hypocritical), but I thought the aim was to fill texts with something which sounds scientifically plausible, without sounding like a scientific journal. Now, as I do not understand it, I cannot offer an alternative method of description, but there must be some more simplistic way of doing things.


Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy


Ah, something I get :D Do you mean perpetual motion? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 02:56 PM

I am sorry, but I really do not get a large chunk of this text.  I am not a physicist, but a biochemist, and that probably explains a lot, but I feel some of this could be popularised a little.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.


Can't you just say the xenium acts as an inefficent catalyst? That would save a lot of techno - mumbo-jumbo that all non-physicists look at and nod.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :'(
Snif! Please feed my greek, geek addiction! ^^
I want mumbo-jumbo-teky-1337-positronic-science-x stuff!
You (not YOU dippy. Me, mad, bush, my sister, anyone) don't get it? Then don't read it and go on! I Have the right to knowledge :P

Ah, something I get :D  Do you mean perpetual motion? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Actually, that's what I also noticed in Word, but I didn't pay much attention. I couldn't find "perpetuun" in 3 dictionaries, but I've found that "perpetuous"="perpetual"= Continuing or lasting for an indefinitely long time.

Αεικίνητον... Well, nothing like this exists in the known part of the universe, that's why we need a constant supply of energy

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Perpetuum mobile (not perpetuun), yes, perpetual motion.
And I agree in cutting the techno babble a bit. It's good that it's sci-fic, very cool and all, but these should be easily read-through, I don't want the player to dedicate more attention to the text than to the game itself.

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 10:04 PM

Perpetuum mobile (not perpetuun), yes, perpetual motion.
And I agree in cutting the techno babble a bit. It's good that it's sci-fic, very cool and all, but these should be easily read-through, I don't want the player to dedicate more attention to the text than to the game itself.

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1) Typo <_<
2) Do you think that the player would dare to do something like that?! :(

Edit: Of course, I am not making fun of anyone. I just think that a bit more information which can be "left alone" by anyone not willing to read it won't really hurt... But ok, you both agree that we shouldn't include it, so I stop trying <_<

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That's not the point, in that case why don't we just use any kind of music? heck, let's put up some AC&DC on it, if the rest of the people don't like it, they can turn it off, simple.
We are aiming at making the texts as good as possible, not just make them the way we like them and send the rest of the people to heck, so if the technobabble gets way too annoying and heavy, we will cut it.

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 05:44 AM

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We are aiming at making the texts as good as possible, not just make them the way we like them and send the rest of the people to heck, so if the technobabble gets way too annoying and heavy, we will cut it.

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Ok, only natural that I try to defend my techno-bable, but can't we just leave it in and write a short abstract for people not willing to read this stuff? I remeber reading this idea somewhere before. So we could feed the people who enjoy reading this scientific stuff (I know a lot of people who think like this. For me the sientific reports always are the best part of every game. I like to research every bit I can, and enjoy reading these reports more than enything else. I must admit, this might be kind of strange to some people, but there are more of us. :P ), and people who just want the fast facts as well.

For the XCAP-AG this might be something like this, only containing relevant information:

XCAP-AG CHASSIS - abstract
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS, abstract

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the UFO Construction concept. This reactor was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and usage of Xenium.

Since only a relatively small gravitational effect is needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy, produced by two hydrogen fuel cells. The result is that only very small amounts of Xenium are needed.

The XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its autonomous command/control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. It allows spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units.

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types.

With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculats on their own level.

“Hey, now you can build this hoverskateboard for me, you know the one from the movie…!?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce


Edited by Mad, 28 September 2005 - 05:45 AM.

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I didn't say we shouldn't include it or not have any at all, I've merely said we have to mantain a balance.

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 09:32 AM

I didn't say we shouldn't include it or not have any at all, I've merely said we have to mantain a balance.

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That I understood, but where to set the balance level? Is there too much techno bable in my texts, as Dipstick thinks, or is it still ok? So since I think everyone has a different oppinion to this, why not let the reader decide? I wouldn't have a problem with writing abstracts of every X-Net entry, the one for the XCAP-AG took me five minutes. And it shouldn't be such a big problem, or do I miss something?
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 10:35 AM

Nah, no need for dual texts, I assume the balancing force will be the author, based on comments. As soon as I have the time (prob on weekend), I'll drop by and let you know which paragraphs (if any) need to lessen the technobabble (I haven't yet fully read your text so I don't really know if there is any need to). But please keep in mind that not everyone enjoys an uber technical explanation, and though we cannot keep everyone happy, our job is to try ;)

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 11:28 AM

Nah, no need for dual texts, I assume the balancing force will be the author, based on comments. As soon as I have the time (prob on weekend), I'll drop by and let you know which paragraphs (if any) need to lessen the technobabble (I haven't yet fully read your text so I don't really know if there is any need to). But please keep in mind that not everyone enjoys an uber technical explanation, and though we cannot keep everyone happy, our job is to try ;)

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Oki :) I'll wait for the weekend :)
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 11:43 AM

Perpetuum mobile (not perpetuun), yes, perpetual motion.
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Um, I'm not sure if I get your post right. "perpetuum mobile" is a fixed latin expression, describing a device which doesn't need additional energy, to keep running all the time. ( http://en.wikipedia....erpetual_motion ) If one wants to avoid the latin expression (which is often used) than one has to write: "perpetual motion machine" which I think doesn't sound that cool :) So. Shall I use the latin or the english term? What do you think? (If it's left to me: I would prefer the latin one)
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 12:00 PM

Mad, I believe the distinction between too much and ok should be drawn where people understand what is going on, or can take a large guess. I have no idea what your text is about for the most part, thus I consider it too technical. I believe that my texts, and most others generally are believable, and understandable by the general population of this site (not the general public I might add here) and I don't feel that this text does the same.

Um, I'm not sure if I get your post right. "perpetuum mobile" is a fixed latin expression, describing a device which doesn't need additional energy, to keep running all the time. ( http://en.wikipedia....erpetual_motion ) If one wants to avoid the latin expression (which is often used) than one has to write: "perpetual motion machine" which I think doesn't sound that cool  So. Shall I use the latin or the english term? What do you think? (If it's left to me: I would prefer the latin one)


I would recommend sticking with the latin name if it is correct...
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Latin.

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 02:38 PM

I was ready to post a long in-depth reply but a power failure crashed the system and made me lose the post. This version will probably be most simple, and may wreck my reasoning... :(
In addition, some parts MIGHT be misunderstood. I really don't want to offend anyone, I just reason myself.


1.i) Latin rules! I go for Perpetuum mobile
1.ii) Αεικίνητο is an object which "goes, and goes, and goes..." for ever. It doesn't lose energy. But, we generally follow the time arrow and thus obey the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics ;)

2)

That's not the point, in that case why don't we just use any kind of music? heck, let's put up some AC&DC on it, if the rest of the people don't like it, they can turn it off, simple.

We are talking about a Sci-Fi game which includes RESEARCH. If its research looks more like a sport-essay than a scientific report, no problem.

3) Please, no double text, just a "good" version

4)

generally are believable, and understandable by the general population of this site (not the general public I might add here)

I totally agree with you on that Dippy. People interested in Sci-Fi (and especially sci-fi dealing with Aliens) are MOST of the time people interested in science, thus they have a "different" point of view for most things, and of course have a minimum scientific background.

5) If you really want to remove something, remove the paragraph Dippy quoted in post #19.

If you remove tech-stuff, techies will be unhappy and others will be happy. If you leave it there, techies will be extra-happy and others will just have to pass stuff that they don't like. So, why don't you make it EASIER for the "others" to read whatever they like (choose the paragraphs they want), but also let technobabble there to feed the techie addiction? That way, EVERYONE will be happy, the information will be there for everyone and the "others" will know for sure that they won't miss simple information, because the CT is well organised.

That #19 paragraph is Greek 11th grade Physics. When I read the CT for the FIRST time, I understoof 70% of it. The second time, I almost completely understood it.
IMHO, it isn't really technobabble. FFS people, we don't talk about quantum tunneling, 4D Lorentz Transformations or Fast Fourier Transforms, we talk about BASIC ELECTROMAGNETISM.

I won't argue-reason on this issue anymore. I think that the "#19 paragraph removal" is enough, but anyway, do whatever you want...

6)

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely designed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting GDDs and is yet very lightweight.

I thought that Alien Composites were for sure lightweight. So, why should we mention it here? (Or was it Aqua Plastics?)

7)

It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types.

Then, what's the use for the hardpoint? Is it just to locate the place where weapons will be mounted?

8) Should more information be added for the AI system? For example, motion tracking sensors, shape/colour identification, type of movement algorithm etc. If yes, I will propose a paragraph.

Edited by kafros, 28 September 2005 - 10:24 PM.


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I won't have time on the weekend, not as much as I hoped to have, sorry :(, I have the first midterm (economy) on friday, and then on saturday I'm back on the books to prepare Discrete Mathematics I and Programming I, so I'll see if I can be of any help now :)

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from 1several downed UFOs, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor 2in the UFO Construction concept. This reactor was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and 3usage of Xenium. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and 4frugal in Xenium depletion.

1. Better take out that "several", though it is vague enough, we don't really know how many UFOs the player may have taken down and/or salvaged, plus it sounds better just "...we could recover from downed Alien craft". Yep, also Alien Craft probably sounds better :)
2. Wouldn't this happen in the Xenium Reactor research? UFO Construction is about...well, the construction of Alien Craft, not about the development of new kind of Xenium Reactors.
3. "Xenium usage" is more correct, since you used "space needed" instead of "need for space".
4. Depletion is probably not the right word there, how about "consumption"?

Since only a relatively small gravitational effect is 1needed, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the Tank. 2The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since it is impossible to create a “perpetuum mobile” the XCAP-AG needs additional energy. After several tests, we decided to use the same fuel cell/hydrogen nanotube containment block unit already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the relatively slender output of this reactor type.
The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the Xenium 3Crystals. While we knew before that Xenium is folded and materialized spacetime, we now discovered that, although not used like that by the Aliens, it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 10000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis.

1. I suggest "required" to prevent repetition of "needed".
2. I don't get this, it is unclear why it is so obvious, and the whole explanation is fairly unclear itself, please clarify.
3. Do they form crystals? (actually not sure about it, haven't read the last Xenium concept).
Ehmm, how about making it 1000 times lower instead of 10000? just a minor detail, but that seems very large.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.
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1. How about a small comment on how this is not applicable to Plasma technology? just a small remark.

1Since the internal systems of an XCAP are much less fragile than humanoid lifeforms, the protection field as well as the redundant engine core system of the original Xenium Reactor are obsolete, allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field. 

1. I don't see how those two things are related to each other, and the internal systems being more fragile or not is discussible, an internal malfunction could render the whole equipment inoperant, while a human could stand several injuries and yet keep moving. But I don't see why the redundant system core is removed because of that.

The resulting XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its autonomous command/control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features 1full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs.

1. To all of them? would this mean a grunt could take control of it as easily as the commander?

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely 1designed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting 2GDDs and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to 3mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. 4Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or ammunition and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.

5With the XCAP-AG we are now able to meet Terror Discs and Ventriculats on their own level.

1. I think the correct word is "constructed" or "manufactured", because the design itself isn't made of Alien Composites :)
2. Please use the whole term, that could make some confusion (I still have to think twice to remember what did that stood for).
3. This implies that the player will be able to modify the XCAPs as he likes, whereas this is not true.
4. This implies more or less the same.
5. Hmm, saying "Ventriculant" doesn't exactly sound cool, because of the fact that they suck at combat ^_^ I could get the reference to Terror Discs, though (yes, I know you meant their hover ability, but saying that we now can meet Ventriculants on their own level suggests both things, that you can be at their own physical level, in terms of altitude, and the laughable one that is on their own level on terms of combat, which is the one that comes to mind first :) ).

“Hey, now you can build this hoverskateboard for me, you know the one from the movie…!?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce

Is this making reference to Back From the Future?

Very nice, I like how this is going, keep it up =b

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Ok, I tried to make everybody happy, still leaving the discussed paragraph inside, since I think it can easily be skipped, and Az didn't mention it to be too difficult. Please keep in mind that this text heavily relies on Moriartys version of the Xenium and UFO Engine Core CTs.
I couldn't reply to every post, since this would've been a monster-post, and I'm terribly ill right now.
Starting from the most recent post:

Do they form crystals?

Yap, they do. :) At least the macroscopic structure looks like one.

1. How about a small comment on how this is not applicable to Plasma technology? just a small remark.

I would do, but 1st, I don't see how, and 2nd, I don't see why, because in plasma tech, you want a consumption of the xenium, to create the plasma itself. The gravitational side effect is only used to keep the plasma ball a plasma ball... :)

3. This implies that the player will be able to modify the XCAPs as he likes, whereas this is not true.
4. This implies more or less the same.

I think this is solved by this sentence: "[...]although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types." Implying, that the player cannot modify the XCAP itself, but that this has to be done by scientists.

Is this making reference to Back From the Future?

yyyyap :)

I thought that Alien Composites were for sure lightweight. So, why should we mention it here?

Well, they are lightweight, that's why the hull is lightweight. I just mentioned it again, cause I think it sound well :)

Then, what's the use for the hardpoint? Is it just to locate the place where weapons will be mounted?

Yes, I thought so.
It is easier to maintenance if the tank has a modifiable hardpoint to fixate the weapon, so that you are able to remove a damaged weapon easily.

Should more information be added for the AI system? For example, motion tracking sensors, shape/colour identification, type of movement algorithm etc. If yes, I will propose a paragraph.

Please post it, or PM me, I will have a look if I can incorporate it, but I'm trying to reduce the techno bable right now. This might not really help with this, or would it?

Mad, I believe the distinction between too much and ok should be drawn where people understand what is going on, or can take a large guess. I have no idea what your text is about for the most part, thus I consider it too technical. I believe that my texts, and most others generally are believable, and understandable by the general population of this site (not the general public I might add here) and I don't feel that this text does the same.

The question is, could you get the needed information out of the text? Because if you could, then I see no reason to cut the techno bable (although I tried to explain everything as much as possible, if you have a look at the text again). I think, if we only want to communicate necessary information, we could do it like in the original game and just write three or four sentences. But we want to have it authentic, and a lot of people like the techno bable. So why not leave it in, if the gameplay relevant information can be understood without reading it? I don't want to offend you, it is just, that until now no one opted so strong against pseudo scientific explanations like you're doing right now.
I hope we will reach a consensus somehow where no one needs to feel offended.

This is the next version. I hope it is not too strange, though I wrote it in fever... :P
I tried to explain most of the things that might be difficult to understand. Please read Moriartys CTs on xenium and Ufo engine core if you haven't until now and don't understand something. The player will have read them when the XCAP-AG is researched. If you still don't understand sth. please post the sentence and what you don't understand about it, and I will try to implement an explanation in the next draft.
Thx for your efforts (and whoever read until here, you're my personal hero! :) )

XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from downed Alien crafts, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the Xenium Reactor research. This reactor was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and Xenium usage. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal in Xenium consumption.

Since only a relatively small gravitational effect is required, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since the creation of a “perpetuum mobile” – a device which doesn’t need energy and is still moving all the time - is impossible due to the first thermodynamic rule, the “X-Coprs Assault Platform – Anti Gravitational” (XCAP-AG) needs additional energy, because if the Xenium itself is used as a catalyst only and thus not depleted, it cannot produce energy, so that we can only use it to transform electric energy into gravitational waves. After several tests, we decided to use the same fuel cell/hydrogen nanotube containment block unit already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the relatively slender output of this reactor type since it can only transform the limited electrical energy supplied by the fuel cells into gravitational waves .

The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the Xenium crystals. While we knew before that Xenium is folded and materialized spacetime, we now discovered that, although not used like that by the Aliens, it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 1000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.

Since the internal systems of an XCAP are, when exposed to massive g effects, much less fragile than humanoid lifeforms, and a sufficiently reliable operation is possible without a “hot spare” core disc, the protection field as well as the redundant engine core system of the original Xenium Reactor are obsolete, allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field. 

The resulting XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its autonomous command/control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs. To prevent collision of given orders, a voice recognition algorithm was implemented, to allow the in field commanding officer a regulation of order rights.

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely constructed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting Gravity Distortion Drones and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or ammunition and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.


With the XCAP-AG we now can regain aerial superiority in battle zones.

“Hey, now you can build this hoverskateboard for me, you know the one from the movie…!?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce


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Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:34 AM

1. How about a small comment on how this is not applicable to Plasma technology? just a small remark.

I would do, but 1st, I don't see how, and 2nd, I don't see why, because in plasma tech, you want a consumption of the xenium, to create the plasma itself. The gravitational side effect is only used to keep the plasma ball a plasma ball... :)

I think I got myself confused, then :S

3. This implies that the player will be able to modify the XCAPs as he likes, whereas this is not true.
4. This implies more or less the same.

I think this is solved by this sentence: "[...]although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types." Implying, that the player cannot modify the XCAP itself, but that this has to be done by scientists.

That is the same, the player controls the scientists, if they say it is possible to modify it, then the player will expect to do so. You say that the chassis itself needs to be modified, but you don't say why the player won't be able to do so as he pleases. Plus, if he can fit a Plasma and GAIA cannon in there, he might wonder that if it's customisable, why can't he fit a Rocket launcher in there.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:09 AM

That is the same, the player controls the scientists, if they say it is possible to modify it, then the player will expect to do so. You say that the chassis itself needs to be modified, but you don't say why the player won't be able to do so as he pleases. Plus, if he can fit a Plasma and GAIA cannon in there, he might wonder that if it's customisable, why can't he fit a Rocket launcher in there.

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Hm. You got a point there... Then, isn't it sufficient to add a scentence like: "These measures allow the limited usage for different weapon types." I don't know how to get out of this. We have to explain why we use the modular concept, but why it is not possible to use the old weapons on the new tanks. :Help:
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:39 AM

Easy, you don't mention it at all :)
That or you can get yourself deep into that hole and think of a semi-rational explanation, like they made the chassis specifically to fit energy-based weaponry (but I think it'd be best to remove the customisable part.).

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 03:09 PM

Easy, you don't mention it at all :)
That or you can get yourself deep into that hole and think of a semi-rational explanation, like they made the chassis specifically to fit energy-based weaponry (but I think it'd be best to remove the customisable part.).

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Hmm... But then it is the same what the original did... on the other hand.. well, be it.. :D
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Easy, you don't mention it at all :)
That or you can get yourself deep into that hole and think of a semi-rational explanation, like they made the chassis specifically to fit energy-based weaponry (but I think it'd be best to remove the customisable part.).

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Hmm... But then it is the same what the original did... on the other hand.. well, be it.. :D

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What original? X-Com? Sometimes it is better not getting into details we either cannot explain or in order to we have to cook things we can barely understand, much less the players.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 03:16 PM

What original? X-Com? Sometimes it is better not getting into details we either cannot explain or in order to have to cook things we can barely understand, much less the players.

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yes, that original :) I have to admit, I have my problems with this, but in this case, it seems to be the best solution. :)
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 04:22 AM

Easily got round :)

You say something along the lines of:

'Due to the revolutionary alien technology, it has been possible to add new weapons to an adapted version of XCAP. This means that we are able to utilise the additional weapons systems created by the aliens, and able to modify the original design to produce a newer version. Unfortunately, we have found that it is impossible to hybridise the designs further, and the original weapons systems used, and other original features of the XCAP cannot be merged with the newer models.'

That should cover it?

Going back to the techno-babble argument:

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined  DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.

Since the internal systems of an XCAP are, when exposed to massive g effects, much less fragile than humanoid lifeforms, and a sufficiently reliable operation is possible without a “hot spare” core disc, the protection field as well as the redundant engine core system of the original Xenium Reactor are obsolete, allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field.


These are the paragraphs from the newest version that I do not understand. I will modify my position on this slightly - I am all FOR techno babble, as long as there is some supporting stuff so that other people can get a handle on things.

I am not condemning this text in particular - I have been reading all the X122 related texts, and I am coming to similar conclusions. In fact, most likely I will look at a large proportion of texts to see similar things. I would think that further clarification would be more than adequate to satisfy the likes of me.

Apart from that Mad, I think it is an excellent text.

Kafros> from what I understand of electromagnetism - NONE of it was basic ;) and this doesn't correspond to much I learnt in lower years.
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 08:19 AM

You say something along the lines of:
[...]
That should cover it?

Might be a problem here, AFAIK you don't have to have researched plasma and GAIA until this point, don't you?

Going back to the techno-babble argument:

These are the paragraphs from the newest version that I do not understand.  I will modify my position on this slightly - I am all FOR techno babble, as long as there is some supporting stuff so that other people can get a handle on things.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to struggle with you, but what don't you get in these §? I am just not able to see what is so difficult to understan there. (despite the word baryonic matter, wich shouldn't bother you since it is just "normal" matter... :P )
So what I 'm asking you to do is to clearify why you or someone else might have problems understanding this, so I can write the mentioned "handle" :) Sorry. This is not to upset you. I just don't get it. It's so understandable to me.


I am not condemning this text in particular - I have been reading all the X122 related texts, and I am coming to similar conclusions.  In fact, most likely I will look at a large proportion of texts to see similar things.  I would think that further clarification would be more than adequate to satisfy the likes of me.


I didn't think/hope so. :) I can understand, that a lot of the newly written texts have a lot of maybe difficult to understand techno balble in it. Just noone noticed it, since we all seemed to understamd it. But since everyone should hae the posibility to understand the CTs, and not some geeks ( ;) ) it is good that someone with another point of view is here.

Apart from that Mad, I think it is an excellent text.

Thx! Took me uite some time :)
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 08:42 AM

My thoughts then:

1) Why are we using 'superconducting coils'? (and I do vaguely know what they are.. ish - but that is by-the-by)

2) What is an oscillating magnetic field, as opposed to a normal one?

3) Why would one help conserve some 'space time' or whatever?

I apologise in advance if these are basic, basic, questions.. OMG
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 09:01 AM

My thoughts then:

1) Why are we using 'superconducting coils'?  (and I do vaguely know what they are.. ish - but that is by-the-by)

2) What is an oscillating magnetic field, as opposed to a normal one?

3) Why would one help conserve some 'space time' or whatever?

I apologise in advance if these are basic, basic, questions..  OMG

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np I really appreciate you asking this! :)

1) superconducting coils are used, because they have a lesser electric resistance. The same effect could be reached with normal coils, but would take more energy.

2) an oscillating magnetic field is always changing its magnetic pole. If you induce DC power through a coil, a magnetic field is the result. It has a fixed north- and southpole. If you now induce ACpower, the magnetic field permanently changes its N/S orientation.

3) This is answered in the Xenium 122 CT by Moriarty. Since the destabilization of Xenium produces a vast magnetic field, scientists suspected, that if you put a magnetic field around xenium, than it might be preserved. I thought, "It can't be that easy" So I invented the trick with the oscillationg magnetic field. It is not based on todays science, but only a few texts are really basable on todays science, if they were, they wouldn't be sci-fi anymore, but science... :)

Hope I could help. The question is, do I have to incorporate these explanations in the text, or can I leave them out?
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Posted 01 October 2005 - 09:19 AM

My thoughts then:
1) Why are we using 'superconducting coils'?  (and I do vaguely know what they are.. ish - but that is by-the-by)

2) What is an oscillating magnetic field, as opposed to a normal one?

3) Why would one help conserve some 'space time' or whatever?


1)
i)

After the 'discovery' of liquified helium, allowing objects to be cooled to within 4K of absolute zero, it was discovered (by Onnes, 1911) that when mercury was cooled to 4.15K, its resistance suddenly (and unexpectedly) dropped to zero (i.e. it went superconducting).

Superconducting material = No resistance = Minimum energy loss and other applications.

Find a material that goes superconducting at 100 Celcius, and I gurantee that you will become a rich man :P

ii)

The Meissner Effect
It was not until 1933 that physicists became aware of the other property of superconductors - perfect diamagnetism. This was when Meissner and Oschenfeld discovered that a superconducting material cooled below its critical temperature in a magnetic field excluded the magnetic flux.

iii)

In 1994, the record for Tc was 164K, under 30GPa of pressure, for HgBa2Ca2Cu3O8+x.


2) Mad gave a complete answer =b . Static Electric Fields produce Static Magnetic Fields, and accordingly for magnetism.

Actually, we may have a problem with OMFs:

Frequencies of oscillating magnetic fields, such as those from the 60 cycle current in homes and power lines, subtly interfere with rates of chemical reactions in biological tissues by upsetting the balances of salts or electric charges across delicate cell walls. Under certain circumstances, the membranes of cells can be sensitive to even fairly weak externally imposed low-frequency electromagnetic fields. This should come as no surprise, as cells, especially those in the nervous system, make use of complex electrochemical processes in their normal functions.
http://vm.cfsan.fda....mm/ift-omf.html


3) Nice twist ;)


http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14e/
http://www.pi-school...essons/physics/
Unfortunately, I can't find an online copy of the 12th grade book "Ηλεκτρολογία". It would answer all our questions.

It is strange, I can't seem to be able to find nice physlets (physics applets) and theory for electromagnetism... I will try more the next few days

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XCAP-AG CHASSIS
X-Net://Pegasus.net/XCAPS/XCAP-AG CHASSIS

After analyzing the Aliens anti-gravity technology we could recover from downed Alien crafts, it was possible to create our own design of a Xenium Reactor in the Xenium Reactor research. This reactor was completely redesigned to minimize needed space and Xenium usage. The result of this project was a lightweight Xenium reactor, unable to lift a ship, but optimal for a hovering battle support unit and frugal in Xenium consumption.

Since only a relatively small gravitational effect is required, we were able to use Xenium as a catalyst, so it is not depleted while usage of the tank. The disadvantage of this technology is obvious: Since the creation of a “perpetuum mobile” – a device which doesn’t need energy and is still moving all the time - is impossible due to the first thermodynamic rule, the “X-Coprs Assault Platform – Anti Gravitational” (XCAP-AG) needs additional energy, because if the Xenium itself is used as a catalyst only and thus not depleted, it cannot produce energy, so that we can only use it to transform electric energy into gravitational waves. After several tests, we decided to use the same fuel cell/hydrogen nanotube containment block unit already known from the standard XCAP. The power output of two of these cells is used to power the on-board electronics and mechatronics as well as the Xenium reactor, explaining the relatively slender output of this reactor type since it can only transform the limited electrical energy supplied by the fuel cells into gravitational waves .

The power of the hydrogen cells is used to trigger a newly researched aspect of the Xenium crystals. While we knew before that Xenium is folded and materialized spacetime, we now discovered that, although not used like that by the Aliens, it is possible to optimize the unfolding process up to this extent, that the Xenium is used up about 1000 times slower than with normal technique. We suspect a sort of refolding, but cannot prove this thesis.

Using a pair of superconducting coils powered by a specially designed combined DC/AC converter/adaptor to produce an high frequency AC output, we were able to produce an oscillating magnetic field that almost “conserved” the Xenium while it was bombarded with coherent photons and baryonic matter emitting a strong anti-gravitational field.
The downsides to this technique however are that instead of delivering power through its magnetic field, energy is needed to preserve the Xenium as well as a significantly reduced anti-gravitational output, thus allowing only relatively small objects to be lifted.
Since the redesign of the reactor involves significant changes to the original Alien design it took us some effort to migrate the safety measures implemented in the Alien reactor core. But now even a direct hit will not lead to uncontrolled destruction.

Since the internal systems of an XCAP are, when exposed to massive g effects, much less fragile than humanoid lifeforms, and a sufficiently reliable operation is possible without a “hot spare” core disc, the protection field as well as the redundant engine core system of the original Xenium Reactor are obsolete, allowing a much smaller and more lightweight design. After running several tests with this new equipment we achieved to fit it in a newly designed chassis and can assure a safe and reliable usage in field.

The resulting XCAP-AG is capable of limited flight in heights up to 30 meters and reaches a top speed of 50 km/h for about 15 hours. Its autonomous command/control interface is based on newest research into the AI field. An analysis of the semi autonomous UFO control circuits which support the Alien navigators, combined with our own efforts to enhance the XCAPs autonomy software, helped us to develop fast and reliable algorithms for autonomous navigation as well as spotting, tracking and engaging of enemy units. Combined with enhanced sensors nets using video sources, LASER and ultra sound measurement as well as acoustical input and uplinks from the team cameras this new generation XCAP is able to act just like, or even better than a human soldier. To allow simple communication with the ground troops, the XCAP-AG features full speech controlled action and vocal response to human combatants as well as simple data uplink to the soldiers HUDs. To prevent collision of given orders, a voice recognition algorithm was implemented, to allow the in field commanding officer a regulation of order rights.

The hull of the XCAP-AG Chassis is completely constructed of alien composites, thus making it a near to perfect armor - shielding the sensitive electronics even from closely impacting Gravity Distortion Drones and is yet very lightweight. It features a hardpoint to mount custom designed weapons, although the chassis itself needs to be especially altered for different weapon types. Inside the hull enough space was left for additional guidance systems or ammunition and future upgrades of the XCAP-AG concept.


With the XCAP-AG we now can regain aerial superiority in battle zones.

“Hey, now you can build this hoverskateboard for me, you know the one from the movie…!?”
Sgt. Miklos Gazo addressing chief scientist of XCAP-AG taskforce