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[Syntax Error]

Is it a good beginning?

Plastic was developed from the Twenties, easy to use and to transport, it can cut out the metal structures easily and can be use to blow up walls and make a traps. It is one of the reasons for which it is very appreciated by the soldiers, special services and...... terrorists!
Heavy explosive is made with the hot new Blend & White Plastic ©, mixture of explosive products and a binder which give a malleable paste resembling modelling clay or cement.
The use of such an explosive is very dangerous for your soldiers, make sure that they are all as far as possible from the HE when it explodes, don’t forget that remains could hurt them if they are not behind an obstacle.

[mikker]

maybe add some cool stuff...

"The main explosive core of the high explosives is a deep secret from the developers. Though our engineers have described it as "one heck of a bomb". the reason of this is that the very explosive core is made of a material...."

sorry. my imagination took a crack.

Edited by mikker, 01 December 2003 - 01:38 PM.

[red knight]

I would let the terrorists out of this... US people are just crazy

Greetings
Red Knight

[Syntax Error]

Plastic was developed from the Twenties, easy to use and to transport, it can cut out the metal structures easily and can be use to blow up walls and make traps. It is one of the reasons for which it is very appreciated by the soldiers, special services.

High Explosive is made with the very new Blend & White Plastic ©, mixture of explosive products and a binder which give a malleable paste resembling modelling clay or cement.
The manufactoring process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce without any danger the components of the most powerful explosive ever made (Rate detonation 10000 meters per second), the mixture is made by a a network of capillaries traversing these sticks right after the programming of the timer.
Its composition enables him to decrease its sensitivity like its manufacturing cost, this explosive is quite stable at high temperature as long as the mixture is done.
A touch screen able to quickly program the elecric detonator but as all the military explosives, this one can’t be defused, so make sure you want to use it before setting the timer.

The use of such an explosive is very dangerous for your soldiers, make sure that they are all as far as possible from the HE when it explodes, don’t forget that remains could hurt them if they are not behind an obstacle.

[Breunor]

Here is the edited text, does anybody want to create some quotes for this one, and perhaps offer some ideas for a name to use? I've inserted Detonation Pack, any others?

Here's the entry:

Plastic explosives have had a variety of uses since their creation in the twentieth century. It?s easy to use and transport, can be molded into various shapes, and is a favorite of our special sources for making detonation packs.

A [Detonation Pack] is made with new Blend & White Plastic©, a mixture of explosive products and a binder which gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. The manufacturing process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce without any danger of the powerful explosive components detonating. This explosive is quite stable at high temperatures and is almost flame retardant, burning very slowly for such a powerful compound.

A touch screen allows you to quickly program the [Detonation Pack]. Once set, the device cannot be defused or reprogrammed without entering the deactivation code; each operative is to be trained in the use of this dangerous device to prevent accidental detonation. A minimal operating distance should always be maintained, and seeking cover during detonation is highly advised.

"Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..." Buddy Gipson, retired engineering consultant.

Edit: Adjusted for Nyyp's and Ancalagon's comments.

Edited by Breunor, 22 December 2003 - 09:42 PM.

[Cpl. Facehugger]

"Lets see those greys take THIS!!!" -Pvt. Bob
Or how about
"This thing is great, it can blow up just about anything we want, including aliens." -Pvt. Bob

[Puasonen]

I think it can be "defused" in a way.. You can prime it, then throw it and get it back so it has to have somekind of switch which prevents its explosion when kept in hand..

[Cpl. Facehugger]

Ooh! Here's another one!

"Cut the red wire. Alright. <Opens up detonator> They're all red!" -Pvt. Bob

[Breunor]

I wasn't aware you could do that Nyyperoid. If so, we can modify the text to cover that option. I'm assuming you've done this in the game?

[Puasonen]

I wasn't aware you could do that Nyyperoid. If so, we can modify the text to cover that option. I'm assuming you've done this in the game?

Yes I've done it in the game. I think the same switch allows you to prime it without throwing it immediatly. In the game I often prime it and carry it along many turns before throwing it.

In game I've had HiX guy killed and then I've went there with another soldier and picked up the primed Hix. Same goes with grenades..

[Robo Dojo 58]

"Humph. I would fish with explosives TWICE the size." -- New recruit.

[Breunor]

he he, how about "Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..."

[Syntax Error]

So, is the text tall enough?

[Breunor]

As in, is there enough words to consider it "complete"? I think so, with 1 or 2 fluff text entries there should be plenty. Consider the X-Net interface, the text box area is only about 1/4 of the screen, so even shorter entries will involve scrolling. We'll also have to toss in the vital game stats at the top.

[Cpl. Facehugger]

Weight: 2
Power: 120
Cost: 3,000
Maximum number of rookies killed at once: 200

[mikker]

that was a good one facehugger

[Ancalagon]

I would compare the explosive to C-4(since it is the most well known plastic explosive) and mention that even when you light it with a match it burns slowly, or it doesn't burn at all. You can decide which one to use.

Edit: Added this in, and added the fluff entry as well. -Breunor

Edited by Breunor, 22 December 2003 - 09:43 PM.

[RustedSoul]

maybe you could use -"condensed/processed RDX resin" somwhere in there?.

& for a comment maybe...

"4th of july on a 10 megaton scale" -whoever

"I'll take a dozen" -The Uni bomber

[Breunor]

I could see putting something about the Blend & White being a proprietary blend of c-4 and rdx and maybe some other explosive compound. I'd definitely leave out the Uni Bomber line, that would not go over well. Couldn't risk too much research on rdx at work, too many anarchy sites to go browsing from an Army PC... so is rdx similar to c4?

[RustedSoul]

RDX is a large part of the C4 composite (ingredient if you will) I believe it is unstable on it's own.

here i grabbed this off an open source which i believe you are all familiar with.
http://people.howstu...ks.com/c-42.htm

C-4 Ingredients
RDX - 91 percent
Di(2-ethylhexyl) sebacate - 5.3 percent
Polyisobutylene - 2.1 percent
Motor oil - 1.6 percent


The explosive material in C-4 is cyclotrimethylene-trinitramine (C3H6N6O6), commonly called RDX (for "research development explosive"). The additive material is made up of polyisobutylene, the binder, and di(2-ethylhexyl) sebacate, the plasticizer (the element that makes the material malleable). It also contains a small amount of motor oil and some 2, 3-dimethyl-2, 3-dinitrobutane (DMDNB), which functions as a chemical marker for security forces.

[Breunor]

Cool, thanks for the info. We could also add that the chemical markers were removed so the device can't be traced-covert ops!

[Robo Dojo 58]

We could also add that the chemical markers were removed so the device can't be traced-covert ops!

"Hmm, no chemical markers in this sample. Must be another government conspiracy going on. I wish that they'd let us in on it, just one time." -CIA agent

[Cpl. Facehugger]

I love that! We have to include that one!!

[Syntax Error]

I thought that it was'nt a good idea to put the ingredients of the explosive for two reasons:
-the mad guy who try the mix at home
-it is boring to read that when you don't have any knowledge in chemistry.

[Breunor]

That's a very good point, let the intrepid bomb maker find the ingrediants on the web rather than in our game, however vague and/or inaccurate it might be. There was a TV show in the USA called McGuyver, in one episode we mixes some items to make an explosive to escape. Even though they left out a key ingrediant, there was a big outcry for putting the info in. From that point on the show was very careful to leave out all the info or do things in such a way that it wouldn't work in real life. It annoyed me to no end that they dumbed down the show, but we could face similar issues here. Just as we should avoid foul language, we should avoid this too.

As to the boring part, I would add that this report is what the science department is giving to the X-Corps commander for his information. Does the commander really need to know the chemical makeup of the explosive in such detail? Probably not.

[Cpl. Facehugger]

All the commander needs to know is this: It blows up big. Use it to root out aliens behind cover...

Also, I think you should use Robo Dojo's fluff text. I think its great!

[Breunor]

So currently we have something like this:

Plastic explosives have had a variety of uses since their creation in the twentieth century. It?s easy to use and transport, can be molded into various shapes, and is a favorite of our special sources for making detonation packs.

A [Detonation Pack] is made with new Blend & White Plastic©, a highly refined version of RDX and a binder which gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. The manufacturing process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce the compound without any danger of the powerful explosive components detonating. This explosive is quite stable at high temperatures and is almost flame retardant, burning very slowly for such a powerful compound.

A touch screen allows you to quickly program the [Detonation Pack]. Once set, the device cannot be defused or reprogrammed without entering the deactivation code; each operative is to be trained in the use of this dangerous device to prevent accidental detonation. A minimal operating distance should always be maintained, and seeking cover during detonation is highly advised.

"Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..." Buddy Gipson, retired engineering consultant.

"Hmm, no chemical markers in this sample. Must be another government conspiracy going on. I wish that they'd let us in on it, just one time." -CIA agent

Another text, if it's relevent to people outside the USA:
"Come on Sarge! It's the 4th of July! Can't we have just a little?"

[Syntax Error]

I have a new name for the [Detonation Pack]: the [Blast Pack].

[Cpl. Facehugger]

How about just C-4? That would sound like an explosive, wouldn't it?

[kchickenlord]

Would it not be a better idea to give a made up name for the explosive and not compare it, allows for more freedom

[Astyanax]

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SATCHEL CHARGE
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Weapons/Satchel Charge

Plastic explosives have had a variety of uses since their creation in the twentieth century. It’s easy to use and transport, can be molded into various shapes, and is a favorite of our special sources forces? for making detonation packs satchel charges. The previous sentence is somewhat unclear.  Clarify.

A [Detonation Pack] satchel charge What kind of satchel charge- a popular one, an X-Corps special order, or a newly developed one? Specify. is made with the new Blend & White Plastic©, a highly refined version of RDX and a binder which gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. Briefly explain what RDX is, why malleability is a good thing for plastic explosives, and why Blend & White is superior/effective/practical/used by X-Corps/etc. We’re going to have some players who don’t know much about this stuff. The manufacturing process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce the compound without any danger of the powerful explosive components detonating. This explosive is quite unusually? stable at high temperatures and is almost impervious to flame retardant, Changed because “retardant” suggests that B&W Plastic actually puts out fires. burning very slowly for such a powerful compound.

A touch screen allows you to quickly program the [Detonation Pack] Satchel Charge. Once set, the device cannot be defused or reprogrammed without entering the deactivation code; each operative is to be trained in the use of this dangerous device to prevent accidental detonation. A minimal operating distance should always be maintained, and seeking cover during detonation is highly advised. This paragraph should be expanded 1-2 sentences.  It feels a bit brief.

"Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..." Buddy Gipson, retired engineering consultant. Can't say I appreciate this quote, but if other people do, then keep it in.  Otherwise, delete.

"Hmm, no chemical markers in this sample. Must be another government conspiracy going on. I wish that they'd let us in on it, just one time." -CIA agent I really like this one, though.

This entry is a bit shorter than the others, but there are places where the text can be expanded.

A slight history of Blend and White Corporation could be included:
"Blend and White has been in the explosives business for XX years, and became the world's biggest supplier of high explosives during the Gulf Reformation conflicts. Blend and White's streamlined manufacturing process allowed it easily accomodate the large demand of plastic explosive, and thusly it was able to secure more government contracts than their then-largest rival, (Sharps & Hall, Inc.). While (Sharps & Hall) has moved changed their focus to infantry ordnance (maybe call [Sharps & Hall] out in the grenade X-Net entry for continuity?), Blend and White remains a specialist in stable, high-yield explosive devices."

Another place where text could be added is in the explanation of RDX and other useful qualities in plastic explosives. I only have a basic understanding, so maybe someone else could take a stab at it?

-Asty

Edited by Astyanax, 31 January 2005 - 10:42 AM.

[Blehm 98]

Okay, dug this one up, take a look


[Detonation Pack]

Plastic explosives have had a variety of uses since their creation in the twentieth century. It’s easy to use and transport, can be molded into various shapes, and is a favorite of our special sources for making detonation packs.

A [Detonation Pack] is made with new Blend & White Plastics ©, a highly refined version of RDX and a binder that gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. The manufacturing process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce the compound without any danger of the powerful explosive components detonating. This explosive is quite stable at high temperatures and is almost completely flame retardant, burning very slowly for such a powerful compound.

A touch screen allows you to quickly program the [Detonation Pack]. Once set, the device cannot be defused or reprogrammed without entering the deactivation code; each operative is to be trained in the use of this dangerous device to prevent accidental detonation. A minimal operating distance should always be maintained, and seeking cover during detonation is highly advised.

"Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..." Buddy Gipson, retired engineering consultant.

"Hmm, no chemical markers in this sample. Must be another government conspiracy going on. I wish that they'd let us in on it, just one time." -CIA agent

[kafros]

SATCHEL CHARGE
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Equipment/Satchel Charge

Plastic explosives have had a variety of uses since their creation in the 20th century, mainly in constructions and the military. They are easy to use and transport, they are fairly safe as they don't explode without primed detonation by the user, can be molded into various shapes, and are a favorite of our special forces.

A Satchel Charge is made with the new Blend & White Plastic®, a highly refined version of RDX-rich Torpex and a binder which gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. RDX is the commecrial name of "Cyclotrimethylene trinitramine", also known as cyclonite, or hexogen. In its pure synthesised state it is a white crystalline solid. As an explosive it is usually used in mixtures with other explosives and plasticizers or desensitizers, and is usually used with TNT. Torpex is a common mixture, containing 42% TNT ,40% RDX and 18% aluminium. RDX is also used in C-4s.

Satchel Charge is stable in storage and is considered the most powerful and brisant of the military high explosives. The manufacturing process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce the compound without any danger of the powerful explosive components detonating. This explosive is quite stable at high temperatures and is almost impervious to flame, burning very slowly for such a powerful compound. All this makes it the most fitting plastic explosive for battlefield use.

A touch screen allows you to quickly program the Satchel Charge. If the needed code is inserted correctly, then the electrical detonator is triggered, using a brief electric charge to set off a small amount of explosive material. With this provided energy, chemical reactions begins, the explosive starts to decompose, releasing large amounts of various gases. The gases initially expand at about 8 m/s, applying a huge amount of force to the surrounding area. This expansion rate is practically impossible to outrun, thus everything around the explosion is affected in moments.

Once set, the device cannot be defused or reprogrammed without entering the deactivation code. That's why each operative has to be trained in the use of the device in order to prevent accidental detonation. A minimal operating distance should always be maintained, and seeking cover during detonation is highly advised. If used wisely, we have a nice and efficient addition to our weaponry!

"Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..." Buddy Gipson, retired engineering consultant.

Edited by kafros, 16 March 2005 - 02:22 PM.

[Astyanax]

Nice additions, kafros.

The usual stuff: Red text indicates additions, orange text indicates deletions, and blue text indicates comments or suggestions.

Added [brackets], capitalizations of the word "Alien", and British spellings replaced by American ones are not denoted.

SATCHEL CHARGE
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Equipment/Satchel Charge

Plastic explosives have had a variety of uses since their creation in the 20th century, mainly in constructions and the military. They are easy to use and transport, they are fairly safe as they don't explode without primed detonation by the user, can be molded into various shapes, and are a favorite of our special forces.

A Satchel Charge is made with the new Blend & White Plastic®, a highly refined version of RDX-rich Torpex and a binder which gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. RDX is the commecrial name of "Cyclotrimethylene trinitramine" cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine, also known as cyclonite, or hexogen. In its pure synthesized state, it is a white crystalline solid. As an explosive, it is usually used in mixtures with other explosives such as as TNT, and plasticizers, and/or desensitizers, and is usually used with TNT (Torpex is a common mixture, containing 42% TNT ,40% RDX  and 18% aluminium).

The Satchel Charge is stable in storage and is considered the most powerful and brisant Not sure what this word means? of the military-grade high explosives. The manufacturing process patented by Blend and White makes it possible to produce the compound without any danger of the powerful explosive components detonating. This explosive is quite stable at high temperatures and is almost impervious to flame, burning very slowly for such a powerful compound. All this makes it These qualities make Blend and White the most fitting plastic explosive for battlefield use.

A touch screen allows you to quickly program for quick programming of the Satchel Charge. Once set, the device cannot be defused or reprogrammed without entering the a deactivation code; each operative has been trained in the use of this device. That's why each operative has to be trained in the use of the device in order to prevent accidental detonations. A minimal operating distance should always be maintained, and seeking cover during detonation is highly advised. If used wisely, we have a nice and efficient addition to our weaponry! With careful tactical use, the Satchel Charge can be a effective tool in combat situations.

"Can we take some of this with us while we're on leave? I know this great fishing hole back home the game wardens never watch..." Buddy Gipson, retired engineering consultant.

Edited by Astyanax, 16 March 2005 - 02:27 PM.

[kafros]

brisant = The shattering effect of the sudden release of energy in an explosion

[mikker]

i don't really get the fluff, i didn't find it funny. Hunting fish with a satchel charge? ? What are they hunting, submarines?!

i like the CIA one more, although i don't know what 'chemical markers' are...

[kafros]

i don't really get the fluff, i didn't find it funny. Hunting fish with a satchel charge? ? What are they hunting, submarines?!

Nope, they are DYNAMITE FISHING! You drop explosives in the water, wishing that some fish will get killed by the shock of the explosion and the rapid heat increase. It is illegal, thus: "the game wardens never watch...". Hehehe, doing something illegal when not seen isn't actually illegal

i like the CIA one more, although i don't know what 'chemical markers' are...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Those little yellow/orange symbols: Corrosive, Irritating, Extremely toxic etc...

Edited by kafros, 16 March 2005 - 02:43 PM.

[mikker]

i don't really get the fluff, i didn't find it funny. Hunting fish with a satchel charge? ? What are they hunting, submarines?!

Nope, they are DYNAMITE FISHING! . If you don't know what that is (I'm sure you do), tell me

i like the CIA one more, although i don't know what 'chemical markers' are...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Those little yellow/orange symbols: Corrosive, Irritating, Extremely toxic etc...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

1) What?! Fishing with dynamite? ?!

2) ...and how does this lead the CIA guy to belive that there is a government coverup going on?

[kafros]

1) I've edited my previous post, have a look
2) Manufacturers HAVE to print these symbols on every product. Now, we are talking about PLASTIC EXPLOSIVES with no "IDENTIFICATION SYMBOLS"!!! Isn't it a bit... weird? Someone wants to hide something...

[kafros]

Damn, poor dan2 has been trying to reply since post #37. I guess he is correcting the text

Edited by kafros, 16 March 2005 - 02:47 PM.

[dan2]

A Satchel Charge is made with the new Blend & White Plastic®, a highly refined version of RDX-rich Torpex and a binder which gives it a malleable consistency, resembling modeling clay or cement. RDX is the commecrial name of "Cyclotrimethylene trinitramine" cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine, also known as cyclonite, or hexogen. In its pure synthesized state, it is a white crystalline solid. As an explosive, it is usually used in mixtures with other explosives such as as TNT, and plasticizers, and/or desensitizers, and is usually used with TNT (Torpex is a common mixture, containing 42% TNT ,40% RDX  and 18% aluminium).

I tried to rephrase this, but it's your choice.

A Satchel Charge contains the new Blend & White Plastic®, which is a mixture of highly refined version of RDX-rich Torpex and binder material, mixture that has a malleable consistency resembling modeling clay or cement. RDX is the commercial name of cyclomethylenetrinitramine, also known as cyclonite or hexogen. In its pure state, RDX is a crystalline solid which is combined with other explosive materials such as TNT, plasticizers and desensitizers in order to be used. The common mixture Torpex contains 42% TNT ,40% RDX  and 18% aluminium.

Edited by dan2, 16 March 2005 - 02:51 PM.

[dan2]

Damn, poor dan2 has been trying to reply since post #37. I guess he is correcting the text

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ha, ha, how did you know? I'm trying to help, that's all, use it if it fits

[Astyanax]

kafros! (regarding your comment about Dan2)

The "and brisant" phrase looks like it can deleted without changing the meaning of the sentence.

I agree that the fluff isn't that funny, but we can suggest new ones!

Chemical markers are found in the tell-tale chemical residues left after the explosion. For instance (made up example), American explosives might use chemical xx containing xx percent zinc and xx percent copper. After they are detonated, the residue can be analyzed for their certain chemical compositions (chemical markers) and the origin of the explosives can be surmised. So if the residue doesn't contain zinc or copper, they probably aren't American.

Edited by Astyanax, 16 March 2005 - 04:04 PM.

[kafros]

"42% TNT ,40% RDX and 18% aluminium"

So that's a chemical marker huh? Oopz... sry

indeed, just google a bit for "chemical marker". You can identify a substance from the quantities of it's parts... Asty

Edit:
@Asty: " Kafros" ?????!? ::
@Dan: "I'm trying to help, that's all, use it if it fits" : NO OFFENSE!!!
Of course, all kinds of help, from anyone TO anyone, is always appreciated (and is actually DEMANDED )

Edited by kafros, 16 March 2005 - 03:19 PM.

[Astyanax]

Sort of. The chemical marker would be in what's left over after the explosive... well, explodes. The explosive will combust in such a manner that it will usually generate the same chemical residues, as far as I know.

[kafros]

Actually, I saw a title saying:

"News in Science - Chemical marker for schizophrenia - 24/11/1999"
www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s68355.htm

[Astyanax]

Chemical markers are just certain chemical profiles that help identify a substance or condition.

For schizophrenia, it's probably referring to a blood/urine/fecal test or tissue sample that demonstrates that a certain chemical compound correlates with schizophrenia.

In the same way, DNA markers are short sequences that help identify DNA or genes. By looking at a DNA sequence, looking at certain markers, you could tell whether it was human or dog DNA, for instance.

EDIT- oh, it's cerebral spinal fluid in that article.

Edited by Astyanax, 16 March 2005 - 03:38 PM.

[kafros]

Hey dan, would you like to complete this CT, or should I have the pleasure to do so?

Edit: I guess I should go on... Much better

Edited by kafros, 16 March 2005 - 03:34 PM.