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#1 tamat

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 04:46 PM

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Its a modification of other logo to a XCOM web than never got used.

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 04:54 PM

Looks really good. I like the blue color, green is fine too but could u do with out the green. Or make it darker green.
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Posted 24 April 2003 - 12:03 AM

sexy logo.

hmmmm "xenocide project xenocide" reads a bit odd tho.
How about having the word "project", same size as now, but on top.

like this gash version I've knocked up only better.

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 12:05 AM

oops. i'll attach it this time

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 03:50 AM

The original rank icons were nice but I felt they were never really linked to a military feel and as such never really fit in well. TFTD however were much better as they had a marine feel to them.

With that in mind I 've gone through the rank icons and designed them with a military feel in mind. I think that the feel would swing more towards Airforce/Navy than the Army (sorry to all you groundpounders) and have taken that into consideration when designing the rank icons.

I've stuck with the same amount of ranks as to chage that would mean a lot of reworking and gameplay testing. All thats really needed is to rename each rank to fit in.

With that in mind I think the ranks should go:

Recruit - Can be from any rank in previous military but all newcomers to the xenocide project will start at this level (The idea for this came from the SAS). Replaces Rookie.

Specialist replaces Squaddie.

Lieutenant replaces Sergeant.

Warrant Officer replaces Captain.

Major replaces Colonel.

General replaces Commander.

These aren't final, just throwing ideas out.

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#6 Deimos

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 03:54 AM

The icons are quite a bit larger than they would be in the game probably about 400% larger. The colour of the background could change too, maybe an Olive green.

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 04:13 AM

Glad you liked the TFTD icons, I did too, but then I'm biased :D

Sergeant is three stripes, yes?

I prefer commander to general.

I found a web page t'other day with some really nice rank reference. I'll see if I can find it if ya want.

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 09:05 AM

This is already done. Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 09:13 AM

This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I wasn't here for that one but I can imagine
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Posted 24 April 2003 - 09:17 AM

What about using it in the top of the forums?

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 09:50 AM

I think that my logo isnt apropiate to the forum, too overloaded, and using black background...
It is only and idea, I can make better versions acordly with some specs.

Drewid, nice idea, next version I'll put project upside.

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 10:41 AM

Glad you liked the TFTD icons, I did too, but then I'm biased :D

Sergeant is three stripes, yes?

I prefer commander to general. 

I found a web page t'other day with some really nice rank reference. I'll see if I can find it if ya want.

I wonder why you're biased :)

Usually sergeant is three stripes but in this case its two. Which was primarily the reason for not naming it as sarge.

The icons go
1---2
3---4
5---6

1 - Recruit
2 - Specialist.
3 - Lieutenant.
4 - Warrant Officer.
5 - Major.
6 - General or Commander.

I did a google on ranks and didn't really turn much up so yeah that would be cool :)

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 01:15 PM

This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

Hehe, I read it as "... let the sleeping dog die"
You would never be so mean huh would you? :sorry:
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Posted 24 April 2003 - 02:29 PM

Ok this a military actual structure of ranks

U.S. Forces
Army ------------------------ Marines
Enlisted
Private ------------------------ Private
Private 2 --------------------- Private First Class
Private First Class ---------- -
Specialist --------------------- Lance Corporal
Corporal ---------------------- Corporal
Sergeant --------------------- Sergeant
Staff Sergeant -------------- Staff Sergeant
Sergeant First Class ------- Gunnery Sergeant
Master Sergeant ------------ Master Sergeant
First Sergeant --------------- First Sergeant
Sergeant Major ------------- Master Gunnery Sergeant
Command Sergeant Major Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major of the Army Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps

Warrant officer
Warrant Officer One -------- Warrant Officer One
Chief Warrant Officer Two - Warrant Officer Two
Chief Warrant Officer Three - Warrant Officer Three
Chief Warrant Officer Four -- Warrant Officer Four
Master Warrant Officer Five - Chief Warrant Officer

Officer ---- This ranks are both used by Army and US Marines
2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General

British Forces

British Army ------- Royal Marines

Enlisted
Private ------------------- Marinet
Lance Corporal --------- Lance Corporal
Corporal ------------------ Corporal
Sergeant ----------------- Sergeant
Staff Sergeant ---------- Color Sergeant

Warrant Officer
Warrant Officer Class 2 - Warrant Officer Class 2
Warrant Officer Class 1 - Warrant Officer Class 1

Officer
Second Lieutenant ------ -
Second Lieutenant ------ Second Lieutenant
Lieutenant ---------------- Lieutenant
Captain -------------------- Captain
Major ----------------------- Major
Lieutenant Colonel ------ Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel -------------------- Colonel
Brigadier ----------------- Brigadier
Major General ----------- Major General
Lieutenant General ----- Lieutenant General
General ------------------- General
Field Marshall -

Sorry for not including ranks for other countries but i think with this there should be enough to create a rank structure
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Posted 24 April 2003 - 02:33 PM

Sorry i think that post was a little too long :unsure:
but i hope there are more than 6 ranks in total

anyway the only other rank structure that i know was the japanese but i don't remember it well
in any case i think we should keep like 10 ranks, that's only me

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 02:49 PM

Okay I'm nit picking here but the Brits would call it a Colour Sergeant

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 04:33 PM

This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I think that we are wasting time concentrating on the logo again... but i have to say that the last one looks awesome....
( do we ever got permission to use that sectoid in our current logo??? )

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Posted 24 April 2003 - 07:53 PM

This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I think that we are wasting time concentrating on the logo again... but i have to say that the last one looks awesome....
( do we ever got permission to use that sectoid in our current logo??? )

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If I remember correctly, the 'sectoid' part of the title pic did not originate from xcom.

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Posted 25 April 2003 - 09:00 AM

This is already done.  Considering bar-room brawl that created title logo, I'd suggest letting this sleeping dog lie.

I think that we are wasting time concentrating on the logo again... but i have to say that the last one looks awesome....
( do we ever got permission to use that sectoid in our current logo??? )

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Yep Fatal Error contacted the guy and it's a go! Many of the logo suggestioned looked awsome but we already have one, let's not go down this road again.

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Posted 25 April 2003 - 08:02 PM

If anybody gets bored with the one that is currently in use (thought I'm not bored with it yet :) we could always rotate it every week or so.... just an idea

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Posted 26 April 2003 - 01:38 AM

That would require that we created a new logo every week, or just had a bunch pre-done to use each week. :)
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Posted 26 April 2003 - 01:40 AM

There are two things that often get designed early in the process of a game. -
Look and feel of interface, and name/logo.
It's hard not to get sick of them by the end. :D

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Posted 26 April 2003 - 08:57 AM

oooooppppssss :P

Sorry i forget to type that U in the middle,
you know english is not what it used to be :D and
some persons like myself do not learn it complety anymore.

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Posted 26 April 2003 - 11:31 AM

I am not sure whether it is necessary to have 10 ranks. 6 is more than enough.

Regarding icons, than I would prefer something more distinguished than the number of stripes, different symbols probably. I liked the triangle on the top though.
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Posted 27 April 2003 - 04:57 PM

I guess that something a pretty more different, so you can see it on your guys shoulders on battlescape... You can even try different colours too...

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 06:18 AM

Having a noticeably different rank on the shoulder in the battlescape would be particularly fun in multiplayer, you could target officers to destroy morale of the enemy. :devilsmile:

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 06:23 AM

New and updated.

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 07:28 AM

IMO dark green doenst show up very well. Try Silver. Why dont we use real rank insignias? Most people regonises them alot better, and less desining.
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Posted 28 April 2003 - 07:43 AM

IMO dark green doenst show up very well. Try Silver. Why dont we use real rank insignias? Most people regonises them alot better, and less desining.

Any bright colour is going to throw the balance of the image out totally. Rank insignia unless for dress purposes aren't meant to stick out like a sore thumb otherwise that would give the enemy something to shoot at :)

The original xcom never used 'real' insignia so we have to do the same to keep the 'feel'. Anyway I like designing, that's what I do if I don't I'll not have anything to do. :)

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 08:10 AM

They look far different now, and i like this ones more than the old ones... And i agree with the not too shiny badges principle.

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 08:28 AM

I guess I forgot to add that they are much larger than they will be in game. I'm guessing they'll be around this sort of size where they are seen in the equip screen. I'd say even smaller when actually on the model.

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 08:29 AM

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 08:35 AM

Well if no silver (which is by the way used in real insignias) Make green little brighter or make more variation to gold parts. So they would be more easily regonised.
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Posted 28 April 2003 - 09:17 AM

I would agree about the green being brighter, a blue (contrast) or silver would work too.

In the field these would probably keep the same designs but not in bright colours.
These days real soldiers have camo insignia so you have to be right next to them even to see it, The Bright insignia are kept for dress uniform or non-combat missions.

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 09:29 AM

Having a noticeably different rank on the shoulder in the battlescape would be particularly fun in multiplayer, you could target officers to destroy morale of the enemy. :devilsmile:

I like your thinking :)


I think different colors of rank badges would be a good idea, or at least have them significantly different enough to be able to tell from a distance. I would get tired of zooming in to see the badge.

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Posted 28 April 2003 - 11:01 AM

Second that.
New ones are much better, but green is hard to see.
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Posted 28 April 2003 - 11:04 AM

i lke the new insignias they look much nicer
and i do see they follow a partern but i still think you
should add at least two more ranks, as i see it you go
from sergeant to cpatain and from captain to Brig. Gen.
i just believe there should just be a little more eeerr...
i gues buffer zone i mean i would love to get promoted
from sergeant to Captain :D :D but how about if you
create Staff NCO "Non-Commisioned Officer"

well just my $0.02
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Posted 28 April 2003 - 11:09 AM

oh by the way i don't know where you got the idea
of the cross rifles, but it looks like Marine Corps style
which i like :D

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Posted 23 May 2003 - 02:44 AM

Do we have any X-com organisation logo already?

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Posted 23 May 2003 - 02:49 AM

LOL yeah at http://www.projectxenocide.com/

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Posted 23 May 2003 - 02:52 AM

I thought that game title is "project xenocide" but organisation name is diffrent :) thanks ;)

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Posted 23 May 2003 - 03:01 AM

We sort of decided on a military style patch not a lot of colour with a large x through the centre. Maverick did a concept somewhere. I was thinking it should have an airforce or marines feeling to it rather than an army style. So elongated triangles and stuff like that. However if you guys want to fire up concepts in here feel free.

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 04:24 PM

Well I threw something together real quick. I'm horrible at photoshop still, so just think of these as general ideas. I personally like the one on the bottom left the best, although it needs an artists touch fro any justice...

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 04:28 PM

But what I really wanted to do, but couldnt get to work, is a combination of these two, so that you had the patch, starfield background, blue orb, and an alien face within the orb, lastly emblazed with the Xenocide name.

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 05:11 PM

i needed a logo for HWP... and here is result...

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 07:25 PM

Looks nice :D ! If anyone has the time though, I'd lke to see what the alien head and the patch would like like combined in a professional manner. Just a request... :wave:

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Posted 25 May 2003 - 01:21 AM

Didn't we had some stylish logo for use as armpatches for the soldiers? Always thought that it would do nicely.

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Posted 25 May 2003 - 02:47 AM

I thinnk we propably need to finalise our military force name before we can finish the logo.

The shield patch idea is. that looks like it would look good on an arm or a base wall.

The other patch had an earthglobe on it which would be good. and I like the shape of the Demich's logo.

I feel an idea coming on. I'll knock something up when it's had time to brew.

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Posted 25 May 2003 - 04:14 AM

:Blush: :Blush: :Blush: sorry demich....misunderstod

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Posted 29 May 2003 - 04:07 PM

I guess that I am going to be the new guy for awhile. :) So in form with what I've seen I'll go ahead and say Hi, looking forward to working with you and toss out my concept of the Xenocide logo :)

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