gambino Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Ok here's what i got for the H&K G11....700 polys lemme know if it needs something...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Squad Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Model looks good, but u could do the clip included to weapon. As i have have understand it (i could be wrong), it is on the top of of the barrel. http://world.guns.ru/assault/as42-e.htm there is few pics that show it (sorry couldnt find better pics at the moment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 If it's for a laser weapon, the clip's already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubik Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 Very good! Much better than my version of the G11, actually . I missed the magazine thing too on my version, it's a bit like the P90 mag, long and attached to the top of the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambino Posted June 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 With the clip, and a little thinned out at the barrel end...looked a little fat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 I like that G11 The last pic on the angle makes it kind of look like a stormtroopers blaster, which is a good thing tm. Am I correct in saying that this will be used for the laser rifle? If so it would rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drewid Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 (edited) IIRC the "family look" for the laser weapons is as much about textures and straight edges as anything. So this qualifies well into the mark. It's got laser written all over it. The only thing It's missing to make it fit totally is the diagonal grooves on the front underside of the barrel/grip(like on the pistol sketches.) I have a go at converting the Max files. I ought to be able to. Edited June 5, 2003 by drewid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) oh yeah - heres the laser rifle i've been working on. It's still a very big WIP, but got any suggestions, let 'em rip! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle.jpg Edited June 6, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I'll wait until you get a little further along with the riflebefore posting too much, but it looks quite nice in terms of basic shape and style. Maybe rework the front and underside to look more like how the front of the pistol looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Yeah, just a quick heads up to see if I'm doing something completely wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 THe only comment besides that it looks good is what Vaaish said. The under-barrel piece looks strange- like it should have some kind of fuction. If you take the barrel out you could say that that is the clip for it- the capacitors are in the underbarrel housing. The butt could use a little biggening, I think, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo2000 Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Ironically, the underslung bit looks like it should be a laser pointer. Beef up that stock a little, mikker, lookin` good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 (edited) Updated the rifle. Dried up on ideas for the stock. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle2.jpg And heres how it all came together. Just for the nostalgia part of it http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle3.jpg And finally: The laser famility as they are currently (pistol texture not added) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle_pistol_heavy.jpg Edited June 6, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Wow, very nice mikker! excellent job!btw, is there a screen showing something in the Laser Rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 (edited) Wow, very nice mikker! excellent job!btw, is there a screen showing something in the Laser Rifle? Thanks! yes, actually. It's a special digital zoom and light adjusting screen that also helps aim (or that's what it's supposed to be, I'm not in the CTD team ). It got a camera in the front which I havn't made yet. But currently it's just a screenshot taken from HL2. Of all thinks http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle4.jpg ----- @ Vaaich: I found a few pics that might be usefull. How would a; http://www.brownells.com/Images/Products/159000014.jpg (the side one) work? Edited June 8, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Okay - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Okay - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle5.jpg I think I failed to note what I was loking at before, the only part of the stock that I didn't think worked well was the very back, it was too small and flat to be comfortable. If you fix that piece andmake hte stock join the rest of the weapon better I think we will be good. Right nowthe back of the weapon cuts off too sharply where the stock joins and it looks a little awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavoe Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 I Love the front, but I just can't get over the two stocks posted so far. It's almost as if the weapon has been cut in half - like a really big pistol with a folding stock. When I think rifle, I think nice, flowing stock. Here's an image of one of my favorite rifle designs - the H&K SL8. http://www.petesdiscountfirearms.com/images/SL8-1_rifle.gif just my .02$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 I find it odd that a weapon as powerful as the laser rifle should "waste" the space that could be used within a solid stock. right now it looks like an overgrown pistol, with a shoulder piece that isn't even necessary, because laser weapons HAVE NO RECOIL. that is something worth considering, don't you think? I would prefer a solid shoulder piece, because then we can say that it contains additional capacitors or cooling systems or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 lasers may have no recoil but they still need to be balanced. Thats wht the stock does... plus it allows a soldier to brace it against his shoulder to help steady his aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 true. still, I think it looks too small for the powerful weapon it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 true. still, I think it looks too small for the powerful weapon it is. I agree... I was just poiting out that the stock doesn't just absorb recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzuchan Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 One thing I'd like to note is that giving the laser rifle a sniper style full stock makes sense because not only does it look cool, but also gives it the sniper rifle feel which it deserves as it's the closet thing to one in the game, and that a full stock is the ideal place to put the power storage devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo2000 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) Mostly, a nice big stock will provide counter-weights for the front of the rifle. At the moment, with that wimpy stick of a stock and the slanted handle, it is going to be a pain in the arse to aim up. It'll be constantly tipping forward and down unless used with both hands. Go for a full stock design like the SL8, and add some panels on it that could be access to any thing put in there. Or it could be a music player. > (In Unreal Tournament 2004, nearly all, if not all, of the weapons have hidden "play", "stop", "record" and "fastforward" buttons. Some have "rewind". One of the robots has "WARNING - EJECTOR SEAT - WARNING" hidden on it's head. ) EDIT: ( http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showt...threadid=451812 ) Edited June 9, 2005 by Exo2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavoe Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 (In Unreal Tournament 2004, nearly all, if not all, of the weapons have hidden "play", "stop", "record" and "fastforward" buttons. Some have "rewind". One of the robots has "WARNING - EJECTOR SEAT - WARNING" hidden on it's head. ) EDIT: ( http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showt...threadid=451812 )<{POST_SNAPBACK}> , Never noticed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 ok, gonna continue working on this. I was thinking that it wouldn't be good for it to have a stock in the first place, as it's a one-hand wieldable weapon (right?), and the stock would get in thr way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavoe Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 no recoil aside, I think it just looks better with a stock and the as Moriarty and Tzuchan stated, an excellent place to store power cells/capacitors/what ever - it makes sense. Aside from that, Whoever made the mesh and did the texturing for the laser pistol - damn good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo2000 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Mikker did the pistol mesh, like all the others here, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 ok, gonna continue working on this. I was thinking that it wouldn't be good for it to have a stock in the first place, as it's a one-hand wieldable weapon (right?), and the stock would get in thr way? For a rifle i think it's important to have a stock and be weilded two handed... if it is wielded one handed the rifle becomes more of a handgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo2000 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Or perhaps a carbine. I believe those are about half-way between SMGs and actual Rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 (edited) just looked at it without a stock. It did look ike a large handgun, I'll see what stock I can cook up. edit: took that sniper stock and slammed it dirrectly behind a pic of the rifle. They merge together perfectly. A simple cut and paste job gave some results. Could this work? Edited June 17, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo2000 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 If you modeled that on, I would give you a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavoe Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Wow, it does go good. Looks damned impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 NB, the hole is for the shooter's thumb, so it would have to be much closer to the pistol grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Mikker... looks great to me go ahead an start modeling it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 (edited) Yees, gonna start it after I get time. Edited June 18, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 It's a shame cpl. facehugger wasn't here to denounce the hole in the grip. WE HATES IT FOREVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle_fam.jpg compareing the 4 versions. The last one is still WIP. Some bugs left to be stretched out. I can't zoom in more, or you'll see them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 the grip ought to essentially be a pistol grip with a projection coming out of the bottom. The grip itself should still be big enough to comfortably hold with your hand in a relaxed posture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 (edited) the grip ought to essentially be a pistol grip with a projection coming out of the bottom. The grip itself should still be big enough to comfortably hold with your hand in a relaxed posture. In other words.... What? Edited June 18, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle_fam.jpg compareing the 4 versions. The last one is still WIP. Some bugs left to be stretched out. I can't zoom in more, or you'll see them mikker. it looks better how it is in the mockup you posted up there, the joint should be smooth so it doesn't look like an after thought. bascially keep your original grip and just blend in the new stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 the grip ought to essentially be a pistol grip with a projection coming out of the bottom. The grip itself should still be big enough to comfortably hold with your hand in a relaxed posture. In other words.... What? In other words, perhaps you should look at the picture that you derived that design from in order to figure out what is wrong with your current grip. It is difficult to know what you mean by all of those smilies, but I do not enjoy being called wacko or having it implied that I am babbling. You are a 3d artist and you are designing something that, at the very least, would fulfill the function that it is designed for. Being held in a comfortable way is one of these functions. I understand that not everyone gets the opportunity to hold weapons, and fewer get the opportunity to hold one with a pistol grip. If you are having trouble with imagining what it is like, you can always google search looking for people who are holding assault rifles and other weapons, and pay close attention to what their hands are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriarty Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 wow, yes, that is going to look great! but fuxor is right, the grip/handle just doesn't work the way it is right now. you have to keep in mind that the hand actually wraps around the grip, so the rear part needs to be different. righ now, if you were trying to use the rifle, it would be very awkward. try to imagine it. if it doesn't work, print it on cardboard, cut it out and try it. you'll see. but as I said, this is going to be great. It really looks like a powerful rifle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 (edited) okay. I just had no idea what you was saying. It didn't make any sence. Well, I've never seen such a rifle in real life, so thats why. I'll see what I can do to improve it. ---- I still havn't any idea what on earth you mean fuxor. Your saying 'its wrong' and should be a 'pistol grip with projection' which I have no idea what means. I've looked at one or two pics of snipers using the weapon, and I still have no idea what you are talking about. edit: overlooked Moriartys post- So it's wraping your hand arround it that is the problem? K, I'll look into it. Why didn't you just say that in the first play fuxor Edited June 19, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 (edited) I hope this more clearly delineates the shape of the construction of the grip and buttsock of the weapon. Any weapon with a 'marksman's' grip like this can be broken down as such. There is always a pistol grip and a buttstock and some moulded piece of plastic that joins the two. The basic shape of the pistol grip and buttstock are never altered, though. Edited June 19, 2005 by fux0r666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 (edited) aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! Thanks! I just thought it was one big lump of plastic with a hole in it. The colourscheme really clears it up for me. Thanks! Ok. I'll start with the grip part tomorrow. I have made progress elsewhere though; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/mikker/Xenocide/laserrifle7.jpg Edited June 19, 2005 by mikker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzon Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 (edited) wow the laser rifle is starting to look alot like a gun i previously started texturing called the warspike... lemme dig up a render... Edited June 20, 2005 by Shinzon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzuchan Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 (edited) Hey Mikker, what about making the part right infront of the rifle straight instead of curved upwards? Here's a quick 5 mins play around in paint to show you what I mean:Also, that part looks like it'd be the right sport to place the forward grip.Other than that, great work so far! Edited June 20, 2005 by tzuchan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 hmmmm.... I don't know... I like the one I used more. I really like the way it looks right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaaish Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I'd leave the curved portion in there... helps tie it in with the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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