Serge Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hello all, We have imported ufo2000 repository at sourceforge just for testing purposes: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ufo2000 Currently we have 2 svn repositories:1. http://lxnt.info:8888/repos/ufo2k/trunk2. https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufo2000/trunk Please compare these two services and share your impressions here. CVS from sourceforge used have horrible performance, SVN might be slow too, we need to check if its performance is acceptable for us. We need to make a decision whether move to sourceforge or stay on lxnt.info. Until then there will be no commits to either of them. Moving to sourceforge has the following benefits:- sourceforge is a available for a long time already and hosts a lot of important projects, so the probability of termination of service is probably lower- working with sourceforge SVN will improve our sourceforge 'activity rating' and make us easier to get into top sourceforge projects for example we are now in top 10 for 'turn-based strategy' category just because of uploading beta 1007 to sourceforge, using more sourceforge services will improve our 'rating' there.- somewhat more 'standard' location for repository, so it is easier to find for people who are already familiar with sourceforge CVS/SVN. Possible drawbacks:- slow performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kratos Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Well if it serves as a boost in rank, ok. But I can't comment on the speed, I have too fast speed to see much difference. Someone with dial-up please comment. :wink1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I got broadband as well so I don't see much of a difference. If this move will publicize more the game and attract more developers then I think it is better than to have it on lxnt, although one undesired effect can be that regular Internet users (i.e. people who know the basics about surfing) might feel intimidated by the Sourceforge page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Well, I'm a dial-up user In reality dial-up users are much less likely to notice any difference as their bandwidth is heavily capped. So no matter how fast or slow is the server, checkout will take approximately the same (long) time as the server can serve data faster than the user can receive them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kratos Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Well that settles it then, moving to sourceforge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclouded Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Sourceforge is actually faster from New Zealand: $ time svn co http://lxnt.info:8888/repos/ufo2k/trunkreal 1m4.504suser 0m4.494ssys 0m0.905s $ time svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ufo2000/trunkreal 0m28.181suser 0m6.490ssys 0m1.230s Both were checked out to a RAM drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Can you also try some computational intensive svn commands? I tried# time svn annotate makefileAnd got 13 seconds for lxnt.info and 22 seconds for sourceforge. But the numbers can probably vary depending on the load of servers. And I'll also have a look at making backups of sourceforge repository before making a decision for final switching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclouded Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Can you also try some computational intensive svn commands? I tried# time svn annotate makefileAnd got 13 seconds for lxnt.info and 22 seconds for sourceforge. But the numbers can probably vary depending on the load of servers.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> lxnt is faster in this case: 16.452s for lxnt.info and 20.336s for sourceforge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[mindstormmaster] Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 lxnt.infocheckout trunk - 42.711sannotate makefile - 1.959s sourceforgecheckout trunk - 8.445sannotate makefile - 0.714s Note: from a datacenter in San Jose, CA, US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberDragon Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I know im only a newbie but ive had some experiance with differant project management systems and in my experiance, sourceforge may have its slow times, but when trouble strikes, they are onto it fairly quickly, but smaller PMS's tend to take longer to fix, as we currently witnessed and i believe its not the first time the system went walk about (MIA) for a while? I'll go back to my rock now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I know im only a newbie but ive had some experiance with differant project management systems and in my experiance, sourceforge may have its slow times, but when trouble strikes, they are onto it fairly quickly, but smaller PMS's tend to take longer to fix, as we currently witnessed and i believe its not the first time the system went walk about (MIA) for a while? Yes, that's one of the good reasons to use sourceforge. Is is unlikely for it to get out of service for a long time just because admin is too busy with other issues or is on a vacation Well, sourceforge only recently started to provide SVN, so we did not have such option before Also as it is a new service, it may still have some issues (or get some issues later as more project start using sourceforge SVN). But anyway, let's try it Also sourceforge SVN is good for us as it provides web interface for SVN commit access management for project admins, so it is easy to add new developers to the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 OK, the first changes got committed to ufo2000 sourceforge SVN, everyone is encouraged to switch their working copies from lxnt.info to sourceforge (checkout a new working copy from sourceforge and apply the patches you are working on). Also it is safer to have more people keeping backups of the repository, the instructions are here:http://sourceforge.net/docs/E09#backup Also it should be easier for anyone to fork the project any time as getting a full repository is very simple All the developers are encouraged to register accounts at sourceforge (if they haven't done this earlier) and tell me their sourceforge names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted April 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 A mailing list for SVN commit notifications is created: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ufo2000-svnFeel free to subscribe, anyway, a changelog is also awailable in the web: http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.cgi/ufo...trunk/?view=log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kratos Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Subscribed to mailing list. Check profile to see my sourceforge name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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