Immanuel Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I think it would be cool if there was someform of alien mercinarys or home grown aliens such as produce there own terror units to fight against them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 merks would be cool maby we could use my"sceloid comander walks into the UN building waving a white flag and demanding asilem" idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Might be cool for a mod, but IMHO it would kill the original game's core idea that the aliens are under mental slavery, and we're fighting to prevent that... -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 well the good alien somehow broke his mind countrool facked his own death and is now out for revenge to the etaerals for enslaving his brouthers (or siblings ratther cause sceloids are asexual) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Sounds a good idea for a mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 but this guy woudent be free he will give you the location of a base only if you give himfull citasinship as a citasin of earth whith all rights a human would be intiteld to and if you give him lots of monney he will give you tech like HWD, psy lab, or xeneim manufacture (which ever you dount have) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Oh, yeah, right, :: like a rogue alien would be interested in money... :: Good idea about the rulership of a city, we could never give him that, but he could ask all he want. Then again, nothing prevents us from promising him anything just to grab the info O:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 (edited) first he would want monney so he can live on earth (he cant live anywhare else he has a 500,000,000credit bounty on his head) and i never sead anything about him wanting to own a city Edited October 5, 2004 by alex the greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Oh, sorry, I thought you meant he might want rulership of his own domain, like a city, or a tropical island Then again, he probably won't have any concepts for money, not at first anyway, or he'll find it too "primitive"... Maybe he'd barter with Elirium?Besides, we could hardly provide him with anything remotely to his liking, becasue he'd be at our mercy anytime... and What happens to him after the war? he turns into a freak show?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 (edited) no not exactlybut he would want to be paid in gold paying a alien in xeniem would be like paying a human in oill or ureanim Edited October 6, 2004 by alex the greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1 Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Oh, sorry, I thought you meant he might want rulership of his own domain, like a city, or a tropical island <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That might be worth something if he had a private army that's loyal to him. But all the aliens are pretty damn convinced that they're going to win. Why would he want an island on a planet owned by an empire he betrayed? Then again, he probably won't have any concepts for money, not at first anyway, or he'll find it too "primitive"... Maybe he'd barter with Elirium?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> What good is xenium if all he has is a plasma rifle? Besides, we could hardly provide him with anything remotely to his liking, becasue he'd be at our mercy anytime... and What happens to him after the war? he turns into a freak show??<{POST_SNAPBACK}> "We don't have to honor your stupid requests, now we're going to dissect you for study." Seriously though, even if we win, how does he know we'll honor his requests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 he is trying to hide on earth beacuse its the cloasists planet not countroled by the aliens and about the freak show thing one of his conditions was all the civell rights a human is reasosable so he canown proppraty, not be ensaved, not be treated inhumanly, ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Gold only have the value you give it... Get lost in the desert with 3 tons of gold and no water, then we'll see you pay a ton of gold for a glass of water Just becasue it's OUR reference for wealth (because it's rare), the aliens might not give it a damn... And even if he got "civil rights", he's still part of an organisation that officially does'nt exist... Which means he could "diseappear" because he officially never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 (edited) well he can tell if we are lyeing so all he neads it to have us promise and if he is planing to live on earth than gold is verry usefull Edited October 7, 2004 by alex the greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1 Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 How can he tell if we're lying? And you still haven't answered my question, Why would he join the "obviously" losing side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Plus, the ones working with him might be convinced he'll be spared, but their superiors might disagree... So classic it'S "cliché"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 (edited) beacuse this ts the only habatibe planet for 1000s of parsecs that isint countroled by the etherals and if he gets caught he will "be vaporised on the spot" he is not playing whith the winnig side he is on the side that doesint want him dead Edited October 7, 2004 by alex the greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1 Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 But why do the aliens want him dead? Why would he rebel? 1 person against an empire spanning.. what? Half the galaxy? Maybe more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex the greater Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 (edited) he is runnig cause once you beak mind countrolyou have no use left so thay "vaporise you" and the brakeing mind countrol was a acdent Edited October 8, 2004 by alex the greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1 Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 And what is the likeliness of this? 1 in 1,000,000? Too much work for a game situation that doesn't add that much to the game nor is it very likely to happen at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 As I said, nice for a mod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_schwick Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Obviously the alien empire would have detractors and rebels inside. They probably figured out ways to free stronger individuals from the mental control of the Ethereals. Anyone but Ethereals must realize, once the mind cloak is removed, that their kind is subjugated by the empire with little reward. They would try and resist, but doing so on a planet crawling with aliens(Mars) does not make sense. They would join your cause to try and beat back the tide of the aliens on Earth. The ultimate means is to hopefully create a place where their kind can freely proliferate without being mind-controlled. Here are reasons aliens will help you: 1) They are a liability for the Ethereals.2) The Ethereals are subjugating their species.3) If they can help the humans win, then they can try to establish a free colony on Cydonia or Earth.4) They understand it would take the Empire a few decades to send another mother-ship with appropriate supplies to conquer Earth. By then maybe the alien technology can be given to the humans to create a decent parity.5) They don't expect to beat back the aliens, but must try anyway now that they know the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qonfused Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 its not that obvius that the aliens have rebels, they could be somthing like the Borg from startreck, hivelike. with no acctual purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_schwick Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 I meant by obvious that any large instiutional is going ot have detractors, even hiveminds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1 Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Even hiveminds? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARAK Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 The borg did have detractors you fool. You're no treky! Anyway, I think this idea is stupid. Write some fan fiction about it if you're really passionate and that will be the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adun_Toridas Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 What might be feasible is that, after researching psionics, mutons, reapers, and maybe sectopods may be used (MC) by xcom units in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelfka Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 (edited) What might be feasible is that, after researching psionics, mutons, reapers, and maybe sectopods may be used (MC) by xcom units in combat.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> By used, do you mean captured and brain washed?There always good cannon fodders. Edited May 20, 2005 by kelfka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adun_Toridas Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 What might be feasible is that, after researching psionics, mutons, reapers, and maybe sectopods may be used (MC) by xcom units in combat.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> By used, do you mean captured and brain washed?There always good cannon fodders.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> that´s the way!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1 Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I'd prefer sending rookies to their death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adun_Toridas Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 I'd prefer sending rookies to their death.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> of course, rookies are cheaper, but if too much of them die... don´t wonder why your people becomes panicked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARAK Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 ...Then after the war they can be integraded into society. A few generations later and we have Alien Nation. The sequel could be an buddy action game about a ex-xcorp bad a$$ and a sectoid, 2 cops. I can see the previews now. In a world where aliens and humans live and work together Joe Carr and Sal Sectoid are caught in the middle of an elerium smuggling ring.Will Joe Carrs training and gut instincts save the day, or Sal Sectoids technological mastery and psionic skills? Joe: "Get down! Get to the Avenger!"Sal: "Die tasty human criminal scum!"Joe: "Nooo!!!"Guns: "Bang Bang"Sal: "ehh, I'm a gonner. Tell my muton.... I love her..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakeman Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Sadly, I'd probably rent such a movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kashyyk Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 i'd like to see mercanairies, even if its just a modjava script: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucible Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 (edited) What, mind-controlling the little bastards isn't good enough for you? God, that takes me back. My friend and I, both about ten years old, sharing the same office chair, discovering a pistol-grip antenna with a globe of purple goo in it called the Psi Amp. We were almost as excited as when we figured out the Flying Suit. The quote of the day was "how do YOU like it?!" But if this proposal isn't dead enough yet, I'd like to drive a few more nails into it. I liked the idea that the alien mindset was a complete mystery to us until the very end. I even wish the Alien Brain didn't have the little screen thing at the end. None of the aliens spoke, negotiated, surrendered, anything, they fought, they died, more came, bigger ones, they fought more, we killed them, analyzed their dead asses, and interrogated them (somehow!) to find out where Cydonia was, and put a clip of plasma into their brain. Or one Blaster Bomb. The reason I love the game now is because it scared the heck out of me as a kid (and it did, oh it did). The aliens were so unreasoning, so...inhuman, so beyond our understanding, absolute in their knowledge that we were there for them to eat and harvest, etc. Those harvester ships gave me nightmares. I STILL hate intercepting them. I still jump when they shoot at me from the dark on a terror site. The biggest comfort of the game was sending their own technology back at them. Hovertanks, for example. Now there was a happy freaking day. heck, I was happy the day I saw an alien panic for the first time. MicroProse was asked once if in X-Com 2 (or was it 3) you'd be able to play as the aliens. Their response was basically "heck no" for this reason. What we see can be scary. Watching Crysslids turn civilians into zombies was scary. But what we don't see is worse. What gave ME nightmares was hearing them do it off somewhere in the night. The day the aliens become familiar, or worse, our 'homeboys,' is the day the game loses half its appeal. A mod, though? Not a bad idea... Edited December 7, 2007 by Crucible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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