rincewind Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Hi, we are currently developing some materials including shaders for the xnet models, facilities and later on battlescape as well.As we want to have them look as good as possible, we want to take advantage of at pixel shader 2.0 hardware while still providing fallback solutions for older cards. The globe shaders do this already. Now in order for this effort to be efficient, please answer this poll to help us see what kind of cards we currently have among members and recruits. This will allow us to prioritize efforts on different rendering paths, etc. Thanks for participating, Rincewind P.S: Yes, I know there is pixel shader 3.0 as well. It doesn't offer much in terms of being able to get better effects, mostly it allows you to write more performant shaders, but we are not hitting performance problems on those cards anyway (and will most likely hit in a completly unrelated place). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 GeForce FX5200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[dteviot] Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 nVidia FX5600 (currently) moving to 6600 soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted November 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 If this keeps going on like this, we can ditch all intermediate paths and just make a very very simple fallback for all non ps 2.0 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATeX Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 main computer: GeForce FX 5200laptop: ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 Pro Turbo ps 2 is the way to go cheers, Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mad] Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 (edited) Laptop: GeForce 5200"Main" Computer: GeForce 4600 - but I rarely use it nowadays, so count the Laptop... ---Edit---Was too dumb to vote (null Vote) had a tough day... Sorry... Edited November 28, 2005 by Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Laptop: GeForce 5200"Main" Computer: GeForce 4600 - but I rarely use it nowadays, so count the Laptop... ---Edit---Was too dumb to vote (null Vote) had a tough day... Sorry... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I added your vote, Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikker Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 wow, that is some one-sided poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzon Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 GeForce 6600 TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyanax Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 GeForce 6600, my old computer has a GeForce 2. I'm not well versed in rating video cards, so I am abstaining from the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhomb Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 2 Geforce 6800 GT's in SLI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnFleshed One Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 GeForce FX 5200. Although I forgot what kind of pixel shader do I have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzon Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) Darkhomb how are your SLI video cards running without overheating? I tried running 2 SLI 6600 or 6800 im not sure... but they ran for five minutes then the motherboard shuts down to prevent heat damage... You could cook eggs on the video crads... Mabe they were just deffictive? or do yours run a little bit hot? Edited November 30, 2005 by Shinzon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 GeForce 6600, my old computer has a GeForce 2. I'm not well versed in rating video cards, so I am abstaining from the vote.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>As the poll options say, all GeForce FX cards have Pixel Shader 2.0 support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red knight Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Ok it seams that we sadly have a trend in here (wait a little until I upgrade to an X800) GreetingsRed Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reist Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Radeon 9800 Pro here. Seems pretty much everyone has a card from the past couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mad] Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) But don't forget that the 2.0 shaders in the GeForceFx Series (5xxx) are pretty slow. That slow, that they're in fact not really usable. Especially with the 5200... I added your vote, Mad thx a lot! Edited November 30, 2005 by Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 *cough*Geforce ti4200*backs away in shame* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 But don't forget that the 2.0 shaders in the GeForceFx Series (5xxx) are pretty slow. That slow, that they're in fact not really usable. Especially with the 5200... I added your vote, Mad <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thx a lot! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They are usable enough to me, though I wouldn't mind getting a 5600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATeX Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 better get an ATI then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 better get an ATI then <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think I prefer nVidia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafros Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 ATI All-In-Wonder 9800 Pro (by Powercolor) I used to have 2 nVidia cards.Honestly, they suck And are too noisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mad] Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) But don't forget that the 2.0 shaders in the GeForceFx Series (5xxx) are pretty slow. That slow, that they're in fact not really usable. Especially with the 5200... I added your vote, Mad thx a lot! They are usable enough to me, though I wouldn't mind getting a 5600 I had pretty bad problems when forcing HL2 into DirectX 9 mode... Wasn't a nice sight... Nevertheless: Of course nvidia is much better than ATI... *goes for cover* Edited December 1, 2005 by Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 NVIDIA GeForce MX440 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 But don't forget that the 2.0 shaders in the GeForceFx Series (5xxx) are pretty slow. That slow, that they're in fact not really usable. Especially with the 5200... I added your vote, Mad <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thx a lot! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They are usable enough to me, though I wouldn't mind getting a 5600 <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I had pretty bad problems when forcing HL2 into DirectX 9 mode... Wasn't a nice sight... Nevertheless: Of course nvidia is much better than ATI... *goes for cover* <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Really? I ran HL2 with my 5200 with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mad] Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Really? I ran HL2 with my 5200 with no problems.Yea, but probably in DirectX 8 Mode.(?) HL2 automaticly switches to DirectX 8 if it detects a GeForce 5200 (don't know with other cards). You have to apply a registry hack to force it to use DirectX 9. And then it looked pretty awfull for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red knight Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I used to be an nVidia guy, but now I switched to ATI... since my old 9100 I wouldnt spend more money for an nVidia if I can get the same performance and quality with an ATI. I still have an nVidia nForce audio solution though wouldnt change that yet. GreetingsRed Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azrael Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I used to be an nVidia guy, but now I switched to ATI... since my old 9100 I wouldnt spend more money for an nVidia if I can get the same performance and quality with an ATI. I still have an nVidia nForce audio solution though wouldnt change that yet. GreetingsRed Knight<{POST_SNAPBACK}>You'll come back... you'll come back, on your knees, begging for us to take you back and give you an nVidia... you'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhomb Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) Sorry I've been busy latly bearly come here but I try. What motherboard do you have, I have the A8NSLI- Premium the asus new A8N32X or whatever spreads the cards apart a little farter.. I didn't seem to have to much of a problem i had them over clocked and my system would crash due to heat so i droped the clock down alittle more but still higher then stock. But now I added a watercooling system and they make a block specificly for dual 6800's, its about 250 dollars though but it keeps my cards at a temp of 65C when running full load. around 52 idle. Darkhomb how are your SLI video cards running without overheating? I tried running 2 SLI 6600 or 6800 im not sure... but they ran for five minutes then the motherboard shuts down to prevent heat damage... You could cook eggs on the video crads... Mabe they were just deffictive? or do yours run a little bit hot? Edited December 6, 2005 by Darkhomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 x800 pro VIVO firmware mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhomb Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) x800 pro VIVO firmware mod Is that the crossfire edition? and are you considering going crossfire if it is. I actually am an ATI fan fare from Nvidia, though i went with the 6800 when i upgraded my system because ati was having problems and did not release there competitor at the time. Crossfire seems a much better solution as you do not need special software to run it, while games have to support sli crossfire can be used on anything and is more efficient. I will prob switch on my next upgrade... Edited December 6, 2005 by Darkhomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fux0r666 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) It's not, but I think I will consider it for my next cards. I had an FX 5900 factory prototype for my last card and I really prefer the ati cards. The unified driver architecture with the detonator drivers for Nvidia is good, but the default drivers (not omega) and the Redline Sapphire tweak utility is better. I've had cream of the crop (for their time) cards for the past two generations, and I really prefer the ATI cards. They're quiter, cooler, and have very high performance that is much easier to access than the Nvidia cards, at least in the timeframe that I was using them. edit: This talk asside, I think that making this game as accessable as possible would be construed as an excellent gesture to those who do not have the same budget for technology as most of the people here who have voted. I think that it would be worthwhile to make the game as scalable as the programmers have time for, within reason. * I have no idea how much work this display scalability is in terms of coding, so bare that in mind. Edited December 6, 2005 by fux0r666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red knight Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Well it takes more effort to handle old video cards. Even mine is what it is supposed to be now as a defunct video card for most purposes (that includes gaming). GreetingsRed Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 edit: This talk asside, I think that making this game as accessable as possible would be construed as an excellent gesture to those who do not have the same budget for technology as most of the people here who have voted. I think that it would be worthwhile to make the game as scalable as the programmers have time for, within reason.Good point, mostly this poll was about prioritizing stuff. There will always be a rendering-path for low-end cards. The question is rather how much "magic" we'll put in there, and how many intermediate levels we'll do. There's currently 5 different versions for the globe material (ps 2.0, ps 1.4, ps 1.1, texture_env_combine, plain single-texture. 2 of them are not active right now, because of issues we have). Another thing is that once we do a real public release, ps 2.0 will be even more common than it is now, so for now I'm doing all materials with ps 2.0 version with all the fancy stuff and a very basic version that runs on all cards above TNT's. Rincewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost5831 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) Geforce 5600 in my personal machine (no internet nemore :'()Geforce 6800 in my "house" computer which I will probably steal the card out of or my Dad was sorting out a third machine so I dont know the specs Edit: Bump! Edited September 9, 2006 by Ghost5831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red knight Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Old topic... closing. Need new survey. GreetingsRed Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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