It's That Time Again..

[Jenny]

Alright, I felt like playing X-com 3 again, so I installed it from CD. I tried the stuff in the stickied threads, but nothing seems to work. I use XP SP1.

 

I think the problem lies with VDMSound, whenever I run X-com through VDMsound, it just freezes after the initial loading of the VDM stuff:

 

VDMSound DOS loader, version 2.01 (Aug 04 2001)

Copyright © 2000-2001 Vlad ROMASCANU.

 

VDMSound is covered by the GNU Public License (GPL), version 2 or later, as

published by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. (http://www.fsf.org/).

 

Loading 'VDDLoader.dll'...

Successfully loaded & initialized (hVDD = 0x01).

 

That is all I get. Nothing happens after this. That goes for both the SETUP and the game itself. Tried the batch file, svga fix, etc. I've tried reinstalling the latest VDMsound, doesn't work either.

 

Any suggestions?

[Jenny]

Oh and by the way. I tried running it with dosbox.. I mount my X-com dir to C, try to run setup and it just freezes too.

[[Blehm 98]]

well, i have that exact same problem, VDMsound and Dosbox don't like my computer and don't run, so just use the cdfix thingy... forgot what its called, i'm pretty sure it is on the Micah's Xcom3 bug faq

Also, no sound or the game will slow to a slow crawl, with very bitty noises

[kafros]

Have you seen the existing DosBox help thread?

[Jenny]

Nope, got a link?

[Guest Azrael]

This is why I don't play X-Com3 no more

[kafros]

http://www.xcomufo.com/forums/index.php?sh...&hl=dosbox+help

 

This will "PROBABLY" make Dosbox work well for you.

 

Also, have a look here:

http://www.jaegertech.com/dosboxer

 

In addition, Xcom 3 is supposed to work under dosbox:

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/comp_list.php?letter=X

[AVE]

Also, Xcom3 from TheUnderdogs works just fine (for me that is!) in 900Mhz Celeron on XPsp1. But I use the -m -skipintro switches and mouse speedup program.

[kafros]

Also, Xcom3 from TheUnderdogs works just fine (for me that is!) in 900Mhz Celeron on XPsp1. But I use the -m -skipintro switches and mouse speedup program.

 

Well, that's the cd-rip version, many say that it works that way. It is LEGAL, so no problem

[AVE]

Well, that's the cd-rip version, many say that it works that way. It is LEGAL, so no problem

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah, and because in Russia we can't get a version other than pirated BETA (yes, I know that sites like Ebay exist!), TheUnderdogs helps much. And it is about 66 Mb total.

And returning to the topic:

You can try the VMware solution. Many games work for me that way.

[kafros]

Virtual Machine?

 

Indeed, there are some ways in order to play old dos games:

1) Get an old Forton 386 PC

2) Install a package like http://www.freedos.org/

3) Get dosbox to work

4) Apply a virtual machine

 

I choose curtain #3, just play a bit with the settings, try different versions, and you rock

 

Well, if you really want to play Apoc and can't buy an original CD, download it's iso via P2P, ffs

[AVE]

Indeed, there are some ways in order to play old dos games:

1) Get an old Forton 386 PC

2) Install a package like http://www.freedos.org/

3) Get dosbox to work

4) Apply a virtual machine

 

Well, if you really want to play Apoc and can't buy an original CD, download it's iso via P2P, ffs

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

P2P is traffic-hungry and time-consuming. It is dialup killer(by monthly bills ).

So search sites like TheUnderdogs for CD-Rip. It is legal, and takes MUCH less time and traffic.

Or first try to run the game directly.

Many games work this way... Settlers1-2, Ascendancy, Panzer General. Some of them need small enhancements like mouse2k.

[Off]What ffs mean?[/Off]

[Jenny]

That dosbox thread is for X-com 1, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with it. I checked the settings they use for dosbox and compared them to mine, but it looks very different.. so probably an older version of dosbox or something.

 

Not sure what to do now.

[kafros]

At that thread you can see my settings for dosbox. They are for version 0.63, which is the latest version. Apoc was "broken" for versions

 

So, first of all, download the latest dosbox package. My dosbox.config file is suitable for a 2GHz CPU, give it a try. You said that you have the original cd? Then, install it in a folder, e.g. C:\Apoc, then run the game exe with dosbox. It should be working that way

[Jenny]

Well alright, maybe I'm just stupid or something. Anyway, I reinstalled the latest dosbox. Opened up dosbox.conf and replaced it with the ones listed in your thread.

 

Now, my APOC is installed in F:\XCOMA.. installed (full) straight from the CD. I fire up dosbox, I type:

 

mount c f:\

c:

cd xcoma

setup

 

At this point, dosbox just freezes. What on earth am I doing wrong? Do I need to mount the cd somehow? I doubt it since the setup probably doesn't need that.

 

*cries*

[[Blehm 98]]

like i said, use the cdfix thingy

download this, and zip it into your xcom 3 folder, with no sound turned on

x3cdfix.zip

[Jenny]

I tried that, Dosbox just freezes up.

[[Blehm 98]]

thats not dosbox

that works fine for me, nothing else does

you could always see if editing your system files to have the 40 buffers and files might work

[kafros]

Now, my APOC is installed in F:\XCOMA.. installed (full) straight from the CD. I fire up dosbox, I type:

 

mount c f:\

c:

cd xcoma

setup

 

Setup? Why setup? :S

[Jenny]

sound settings!

[[Blehm 98]]

mmmm, does it automatically revert to no sound when you don't run setup?

[AVE]

sound settings!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

PM me you sound config (Card name (SB compatible?), IO port, IRQ,DMA), I'll PM you the sound.cfg

mmmm, does it automatically revert to no sound when you don't run setup?

No, defaults can be seen in sound\soun.cfg

Its hex values for (Card, IO port, IRQ?, DMA?).

No sound is -m -skipintro switches.

Edited July 29, 2005 by AVE

[[Blehm 98]]

soundblasterpro

then i think

port i think is 5

IRQ(or whatever) is 1 i think

there is another missing

this however slows the game to a crawl and the sound is very bitty and low quality

[j'ordos]

Probably a little late here, but have you tried starting it up with VDMSound, and then when it doesn't seem to proceed any further pressing alt-tab and start something else, then alt-tab back to xcom3? Sometimes just doing that seems to work when I get that problem...