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bug: cannot stun anything, aliens keep reappearing invisble


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#1 Guest_octeuron_*

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 11:46 AM

playing CE version on win xp with ldr patch

came across a bug ive never seen before; everytime i try to stun any alien, they fall but game still shows that 1 alien is in view and technically there is although he disappears. if i keep stunning with the rod, he instantly reappears only to fall and the process can be repeated indefinitely. i can only kill him, but when i do and walk over him, there is no corpse - only the weapons.

is there a fix for this?

Edited by octeuron, 11 February 2011 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted 11 February 2011 - 12:55 PM

Is this happening during a base defense mission? Possibly on superhuman?

Just guessing the cause, but from what I remember it's possibly the bug that's associated with having too many objects in the battle that the item table is full. When the aliens fall they cannot create the body object to represent the unconscious body.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:20 AM

not base defence. just regular ufo mission and every single one.
cannot capture/research live alien.
could it be that i loaded an old save on a different computer?

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 02:54 PM

I can confirm that bug ( in unmodified version of ufo )

I had come to this bug many!! times ... but ONLY in alien bases, not on regular missions
perhaps other missions with larger alien number, which in turns converts to many items on the ground to be created
( as NKF suggests ) can produce the same bug

I solved this by hitting alien with small launcher stun bombs ( I assumed you want to capture not to kill )
instead of using stun rods on him, over and over again
same behaviour as you observe, no alien corpse only weapons
but this time no flashing number indicating alien ( which I could not see ) in visual range
at the end of mission I captured alien stunned in this way ... any-way :)

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Edited by yarrow, 13 February 2011 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2011 - 04:28 PM

yarrow, yes this is the same exact bug that you describe.

but i did notice that it may be with only specific aliens.
i cannot stun mutants and snakemen with rods regardless of ship size
but floaters and sectoids i can

and yes i can stun anything with stun bomb (at least there is a workaround although annoying sometimes)

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 11:54 AM

I dont think it is connected to alien race or rank
because sometimes I couldn't stun sectoid commander,
other times it was muton soldiers ( mutants are in fallout :) ) or snakeman engineers
In every game I started, I had 'stun rod problems' with different alien race / rank combination

I think its rather connected to stun rod itself
its pure guess here, but seems logical
after all, I got no such problems with small launchers

and since I found the perfect workaround ... problem just vanished to me

ps.
any area weapon should do 'the trick'
any HE ( greanade or weapon ammo ), small laucher / stun bomb ... blaster bomb ^_^

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Edited by yarrow, 17 February 2011 - 11:56 AM.


#7 LouisdeFuines

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:47 AM

Seems superhuman is rather bug-connected.



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