Guest Mo Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 Cheers, My X-Com: UFO Defence recently crashed on me... completely, and I've been working on reinstalls and patching it up to worl again for a couple of days now. In the end I run into one of these two problems when trying to play (in both cases I'm running Win 98, PII 400, 128gfx card - In both cases the same crashes happen in Windows and dos mode): 1. Running it with all files copied to the harddrive off the 1.2 X-com: UFO Defence cd (patched to 1.4 and unpatched): The program freezes and you become unable to do anything on accepting the first mission. The error message (in big green font) reads: Cannot load (long list of files) from missdat (the directory). 2. Running the 1.2 version (unpatched) off the CD, everything works fine... except for that rather annoying chopper sound during missions. It's loud enough to give me a headache and playing without soundeffects is annoying, although it can be quite unnerving as the music in the 1.2 is much, much better than in the other versions. Any help would be much appreciated and I will consider worshipping you if you can solve either or both of my problems. - Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 (edited) You are sure you copied everything from the cd? you can also try to 'acquire' a CE version from somewhere ... edit : dead link... Edited September 2, 2003 by j'ordos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-san Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 Yupp absolutely sure. You know, select all files, copy, paste... I even did it in dos once to make sure I got it right... copy *.* c:\... ladida. Yupp, that doesn't seem to be the issue... as for buying the CE ed... that takes money and doesn't fix the problem any time soon. Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 problems finding sarcasm and links I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-san Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 I found both... right after I sent out my post... *S* Then again, some of us have ethics... and some of us live across an ocean and seem to have a problem downloading stuff from those links (another thread had the same problem)... and then some of us wouldn't dl anything from anyone who beat their home country in soccer! Ok, then again, I don't have ethics problems, nor am I a soccer fan... so I guess leaves incompetence... - Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 (edited) well, in case you have problems with your conscience : try this french link to a copy of xcom...removed what country are you from anyway?? Edited July 20, 2003 by j'ordos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-san Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 From Norway, live in Canada... which is why I can read that page you linked to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-san Posted July 13, 2003 Report Share Posted July 13, 2003 That was a pretty explosion DLed the frech version... tried to run it straight (suspect this may have been a mistake as computer promply froze itself at 320x200) mmm... maybe run it in DOS mode... or does it need to be placed in an existing x-com directory? - Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshot Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 I think I also have that "chopper" noise he's talking about (I think, though it sounds like a Catfish grunting to me) , and I've got CE, is there any way to fix that or eliminate it other than by turning the sound down? P4 1.7g, Geforce4 64mb, on WinXp. Thanks in advance, if you can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Are you running all the patches? Specifically the sound fix? I never had a problem with the chopper noise myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Perhaps that's the problem you are having with tftd? DLed the frech version... tried to run it straight (suspect this may have been a mistake as computer promply froze itself at 320x200) mmm... maybe run it in DOS mode... or does it need to be placed in an existing x-com directory? I have downloaded that fr version and it works fine (it doesn't include the fixes tho, try installing those too)so you don't need to put it in an existing xcom directory.If it doesn't work with the patches then post your system specs please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Perhaps that's the problem you are having with tftd?Maybe, sounds similar. I have all the patches installed for that though. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xusia Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 I'm having the weird chopper noise as well. Any good solutions out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Oooh, were not alone. My problems are on TftD though. You do have all the patches installed yes? Im a bit befuddled myself. Anyone else got any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xusia Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Hold, sussed it. The GMTACTIC file in the "SOUND" directory actually sounds like a chopper taking off (or a catfish having its tummy rubbed, as somebody else said). I have just:1) Made a back up copy of that, just in case something goes horribly wrong.2) Deleted the original GMTACTIC3) Made a copy of GMSTORY4) Renamed this "Copy of GMSTORY" to GMTACTIC Bobs your uncle, we have good tunes without a chopper or catfish in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Well done! What sound does gmstory make then? InTftD, I was going to try and look at the sounds myself, to see if I could do a similar thing. But then I got Apoc working so I forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 (edited) You mean actually that 'bug' was just the music?? Okay the GMTACTIC tune isn't very good, and repetitive, but still That doesn't apply to tftd tho, Miceless... I still think it's just the water you're hearing. Edited July 14, 2003 by j'ordos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Right, but if i find the file that corresponds to water I can implement a similar solution. Here goes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 (edited) It's probably stored in the sound\sample.CAT file, but I don't know what can open/edit it... Edited July 14, 2003 by j'ordos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 What does the file gmisposh.mid sound like to you? Its in the SOUND directory, and all I get is one continuous drone. I think thats the file, but im not sure. Ill have to load up TftD again and listen more carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Nope, sounds good here. Remember, these are midi files. The quality is very dependant on the quality of your sound card.But that one can't be the cause since it's the music you get before you enter the battlescape (mission briefing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Hmmm, all i get is a drone. Ill look into it in more detail later. On this machine, i am willing to bet the sound card is appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-san Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 (edited) I found the sound file oon that French dl, and it's definately the GMTACTIC as I've never heard it while actually playing the game. (I played it in Media player to check the sound) The only problem is that in the original version it's stored in the .cat files... and I have no idea how to edit those. And as you (j'ordos) mention, I should try to run the fixes on the French dl version. They (the fixes) didn't seem entirely to overjoied at trying to join the program... hmmm... they are being, how shall we say... elusive. In any case my machine specks are simple: PII 350 (400 which misbehaves), 128 RAM (not much of an issue), ATI Matrox something or other (not very good), A soundcard that is worse than it's supposed to be (64bit SB, but never registers as what it is supposed to be... if I had more money this would be the first to go). And I'm running Win98 SE. Does that help? Mo Edited July 16, 2003 by Mo-san Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[Micah]] Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I've used an old version of a program called Cooledit to open/manipulate the .cat files and saved them to a modern format. When you open the .cat files, be sure to open them with these properties:11025khz, Mono, 8-bit, PCM Unsigned. CoolEdit This is an unregistered version, so select the Save feature at the very least, and whatever other one you want. Back in the 'day,' the chopper sound was a driver problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo-san Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Driver problem? What was the fix as such? -Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Thanks for the link and the info Micah, i will check it out. Yeah, was there a fix for the driver issue? Or did you mean to just get updated sound drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'ordos Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I found the sound file oon that French dl, and it's definately the GMTACTIC as I've never heard it while actually playing the game. (I played it in Media player to check the sound)GMTACTIC is the sound played during battles. It's the worst music in xcom IMHO, but you can replace it with any midi you want. (I used one from dune2 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miceless Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Ill have a listen when I get home. My problems are in XCOM2 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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