Guest stewart Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 It would be best if people used GIFs since they are the smallest format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Actually GIFs aren't the smallest format. Gifs may only have 256 colors but jpegs are much better compressed and result in smaller file sizes than Gifs do. Trust me I know this from years of being a sysop. There are formats that offer better compression than jpegs in many cases but might not be supported by IE so for the net use .jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 You mean compressed jpg, of course. Well whatever GIFs are small anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 well gifs are always so and a picture of someone would be 100k to 400k whereas jpegs are like 30-90k prolly. big diffrence. It is because jpegs use loose compression where bits of data are lost while compressing whereas gifs nothing is lost thought they still have the 256 color limit. gifs are compareable to jpegs the way wav files are compareable to mp3s. Also techinically if ya make a gif it belongs to compuserv guess AOL now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Images stored as GIFs belong to someone else? That's silly; what if you delete them; is that vandalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 That is why GIFs lost their popularity awhile back there. Compuserv who invented GIFs went to court claiming all those things and won. I don't know what the state of things are these days since GIFs have been rendered insignificant by other images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [email protected] Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 I agree that jpegs are better, because of the file size and color depth. All the pics on this site are jpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Could you snag an image converter for download. I just uploaded an image that started out as a bmp. But I had to crop it because the freeware version of Alchemy has image size limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Do they have the gimp for windows? I know for linux gimpy does a good job for that kinda stuff specially if ya gotta crop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Yeah, I'm on windows so Linux Stuff is useless to me. I think I've heard of the GIMP thing, if there is a windows version then posting the URL would be okay too I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/ just took a google search of +gimp +windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/ just took a google search of +gimp +windows The thing doesn't do GIFs! Is the default for jpg the compressed state thats smaller than GIFs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 The thing doesn't do GIFs! Is the default for jpg the compressed state thats smaller than GIFs?Think they took Gif support out for previously mentioned legal problems that exist with GIFs. Guess AOL/Time Warner is keeping up the preasure. And sure default compression for jpegs are better than gifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 The thing doesn't do GIFs! Is the default for jpg the compressed state thats smaller than GIFs?Think they took Gif support out for previously mentioned legal problems that exist with GIFs. Guess AOL/Time Warner is keeping up the preasure. And sure default compression for jpegs are better than gifs.That is soooo stupid. Apple Computer and Sony both made that mistake too. Then end result is MAC hover at around 5% of all computers and Beta is dead. This is just gonna kill the GIF format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 That is soooo stupid. Apple Computer and Sony both made that mistake too. Then end result is MAC hover at around 5% of all computers and Beta is dead. This is just gonna kill the GIF format.I think they already did that. in the BBS days GIFs were the number 1 format used. Around the time they first started that nonsense I notice the net used jpegs more than gifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [email protected] Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 I think I've mentioned this program a millions times on this forum, but the one I use to resize and compress jpgs (and any other pic format) is this lview program. It's pretty small (360k zipped) and darn efficient. I've actually been using if for at least 5 years and it's always met my needs. Here's the link, again. http://www.xcomufo.com/lview.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 That is soooo stupid. Apple Computer and Sony both made that mistake too. Then end result is MAC hover at around 5% of all computers and Beta is dead. This is just gonna kill the GIF format.I think they already did that. in the BBS days GIFs were the number 1 format used. Around the time they first started that nonsense I notice the net used jpegs more than gifs. Are there animated Jpgs yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Not sure if Jpegs can do that. Think that is what Mpegs are for. Same concept as jpegs but for animation. Mpeg4 is the latest version of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timil Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 A friend of mine worked on the Jpeg format.. he tried to explained it to me.. what a mistake!I happen to go drunk a short while after to forgot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 well I don't know the jpeg format exactly but I get the general idea of how someone would implement something simular with lossy compression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stewart Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 On the other hand those animated GIF can be very handy and small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangsta Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 On the other hand those animated GIF can be very handy and small.Well mpeg-2 and mpeg-4 are usually used for big animations like movies. but I think they would produce small files for animations as simple as GIF animations people just don't use em for that for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordT Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Why not use PNGs instead of gifs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[Micah]] Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 The forum doesn't seem to recognize .png's as pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breunor Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 That is why GIFs lost their popularity awhile back there. Compuserv who invented GIFs went to court claiming all those things and won. I don't know what the state of things are these days since GIFs have been rendered insignificant by other images. In the case of Compuserv, the phrase "Don't look a Gif horse in the mouth" DOES apply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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