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Posted 21 August 2005 - 04:48 PM

Once again, azrael replies while I reply, so I am not to be held responsible for anything :P

Well, we say "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaafter the war".

Do you think that humans will stop Alien research after [Cydonia]? Naaah, they will have the time (and peace :D) to research as much as they want, with no restrictions :)

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 04:48 PM

Something else:

Based on the assumption that rapid growth of mature tissue is meaningless without an equally fast method of mental development since an orthodox education regimen would take at least months, if not years, to complete, we investigated further and discovered how the Aliens are able to accomplish this feat - by using memory "Uploaders”. These devices are located in the interior of Incubators and can be described as automated neural tutors. Once fetuses have a working neural system, Uploaders bathe their brains with electric stimuli, effectively "programming" the brains with knowledge and behavioural patterns. The intensity of this training increases with the growth of the fetus until they have completed their mental training. Once they complete their growth and exit the Incubator, Aliens are active members of their ranks. Analysis of tissue samples taken from all fetuses we have found so far suggests that those of the same race have identical genetic fingerprints. This suggests that each Alien race we encountered actually consists of clones of a yet undiscovered precursor. This also explains the near-to-identical visual aspects of Alien specimens captured thus far.

This paragraph is bothering me, not because it's not plausible, coherent or well written, it's because it's too specific. This paragraph as it is needs to go, as I see it it is beyond the scientists to know all of that at this moment. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea and I had thought of it before too (I think I suggested it on the Labs, ages ago, when I was a recruit :) ), but it's too much to reveal for now, please keep

Based on the assumption that rapid growth of mature tissue is meaningless without an equally fast method of mental development since an orthodox education regimen would take at least months, if not years, to complete

as it's a logical question, but say that they still can't figure out how do the Aliens learn that fast; also, the Uploaders will remain unknown Alien gadgets which have remained a complete mystery, maybe the scientists can't even open them without causing a lot of internal damage, or their sudden separation from the power supply does cause them to burn out, or whatever you want; mention them, but don't say what they are, they are a mystery :)

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 04:49 PM

Once again, azrael replies while I reply, so I am not to be held responsible for anything :P

Well, we say "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaafter the war".

Do you think that humans will stop Alien research after [Cydonia]? Naaah, they will have the time (and peace :D) to research as much as they want, with no restrictions :)

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But after the War there will be no discernible Alien threat anymore, the Invasion has already been stopped by then :)

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 05:03 PM

Edit: I messed-up tis post with while editing... yikez >_<. Nevermind, see the next post :)

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 05:54 PM

In order to fully appraise the true threat of the Alien species and understand the very nature of the Alien invasion, we must first comprehend the alien species themselves. Understanding more about Alien physiology, anatomy, and reproduction will aid us in this endeavor. Further research then must be directed at the methods and goals of our attackers, in order for us to effectively counter them.

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There is still this part. The point is, that after the Overmind is dead, the Invasion has been stopped, there is no more Alien threat, there is nothing else to counter, in that last phrase you imply that more research into reproduction will aid stop the Invasion, when in fact it will not, further research would have to take place afterwards the attack on the Overmind, as you said yourself, in which there will be no more invasion to counter.

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 11:00 PM

I agree that I seem to contradict myself (The last sentence was actually one I wrote...). what I meant by the "Further research then must be directed at the methods and goals of our attackers, in order for us to effectively counter them.", and especially the "methods and goals" is actually the kinds of alien missions you research, which will - as I understand - eventually lead to the research topic telling you that the invasion must be stopped by destroying the alien overmind. perhaps I should look again at the research tree? I thought it made sense at he time I was writing it. If necessary, just delete the sentence.

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Posted 21 August 2005 - 11:58 PM

ALIEN BREEDING
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Alien/Research/Alien Breeding

In order to fully appraise the true threat of the Alien species and understand the very nature of the Alien invasion, we must first comprehend the alien species themselves. Understanding more about Alien physiology, anatomy, and reproduction will probably aid us in this endeavor.

During battlefield operations, X-Corps has salvaged equipment that appears to be intricately tied to the aliens' life cycle. Most of this equipment was installed in special rooms and connected to each other in a network pattern. Among them there were some special devices which can only be described as incubators. These incubators contained a nutrient-rich artificial amniotic fluid in which fetuses in various stages of development were suspended. The liquid appears to facilitate the growth of the embryo inside. Cybernetic consoles assist in monitoring the embryos and ensure their proper development. The energy for their operation needs to be provided by an outside power source. In addition, incubators have a special conditioning system which keeps the temperature at a constant 314 Kelvin. Last but not least, two cylindrical receptors are located in one side of the incubator. Vials salvaged from the room fit these receptors perfectly. They are probably used for administration of medicals and nutrients.

While conducting research on an incubator, X-Corps scientists found further evidence that Ventriculant tissue is the initial factor in alien cloning, as the Ventriculant Autopsy report suggests. There was some Ventriculant tissue in the fluid, but not on the fetus. Upon closer investigation, younger fetuses had a higher Ventriculant to non-Ventriculant tissue ratio than older ones, strongly implying that Alien clones undergo a metamorphosis from Ventriculant tissue during their development. In order to produce a whole organism with different cell types, the aliens probably inject Ventriculant cells with different DNA strings, an “in vitro” procedure, which make the cells transform into various body parts, for example vital organs and skin. They are obviously able to use this method to create fully functional embryonic cell clusters that can grow into fetuses. Inside the incubators, fetuses have the energy, nutrients and growth-safe environment they need, indispensable premises for their complete and successful transformation. Hence, we nicknamed the whole room "Nursery Chamber".

Aliens do not appear to be grown on ships, as the Incubators are securely and hermetically sealed to prevent contamination from outside factors. In addition, nursery chambers do not appear to have the equipment needed to either start or complete fetus growth, suggesting that they are only used to transport developing Alien fetuses to a more secure location to complete their growth, possibly to established Alien bases on Earth.

Based on the assumption that rapid growth of mature tissue is meaningless without an equally fast method of mental development since an orthodox education regimen would take at least months, if not years, to complete, we investigated further in order to discover how the Aliens are able to accomplish this feat. Alas, we haven’t managed to solve this mystery. Maybe the answer lies in various small devices located inside the incubators. Unfortunately, by the time we try to remove them from the incubator, they appear to break down, preventing us from conducting research on them.

Since we are unable to observe the whole cloning procedure, we are unsure as to whether it is cost and time efficient. Yet, we strongly believe that this procedure is utilised as a factory-line system and the Alien invaders are able to generate the various alien clones they need (soldiers, scientists, pilots, engineers etc) in an accelerated time frame. Many scientific and military agents suggested that further research should be conducted in order to create the needed technology which will help us clone humans by utilising these nursery chambers. Alas, this idea was proven to be impossible to materialize. Setting ethical and practical issues aside, we face a yet unsolvable issue, despite our thorough scientific investigation. Attempts to integrate Ventriculant tissue with human DNA have been futile, as the cells stay idle. To understand why this is, we would probably need a lot more time than we have. We are confident, though, that after the war we will be able to answer this question.

"Oh, so it's just cloning, not anything else? Why'd you call it 'alien breeding' then? Damn, I thought I could create a new kind of porn-perversion, xenophilia...
- Scientist Tommy J. Fork, nicknamed "The Pervert"

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 12:55 AM

I like it, I have no further comments :)

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 05:10 AM

perfect. I like the paragraph as an introductory text, and the "probably" saves us from a lot of trouble :)
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Posted 22 August 2005 - 06:13 AM

Wonderful :D

So, I guess I will wait some hours more (someone *ahem*Asty*ahem* may make a comment that will put us into thought once again :wink1:). If not, then PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE LET ME CLOSE THIS THREAD so that Azy will put it into Complete!

Pleeeeeeeease?! :D

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Posted 22 August 2005 - 02:35 PM

purple is for adding on a letter or two to a word
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ALIEN BREEDING
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Alien/Research/Alien Breeding

In order to fully appraise the true threat of the Alien species and understand the
very nature of the Alien invasion, we must first comprehend the alien species themselves. Understanding more about Alien physiology, anatomy, and reproduction will probably aid us in this endeavor.

hmmmm, this paragraph is misplaced to me, but also fits in. I personally think that the above paragraph should be rewritten, but kept the exact same theme, but that is just what i think ;)

During battlefield operations, X-Corps Soldiers have salvaged equipment that appears to be intricately tied to the aliens' life cycle. Most of this equipment was installed in special rooms and connected to each other in a network pattern. Among them there were some special devices which can best and only be described as incubators. These incubators contained a nutrient-rich artificial amniotic fluid in which fetuses in various stages of development were suspended. The liquid appears to facilitate the growth of the embryo inside. Cybernetic consoles assist in monitoring the embryos and ensure their proper development. The energy for their operation needs to be provided by an outside and continuous power source. In addition, incubators have a special conditioning system which keeps the temperature at a constant 314 Kelvin. Last but not least, two cylindrical receptors are located in one side of the incubator. Vials salvaged from the room fit these receptors perfectly. They are probably used for administration of medicals Medicines and nutrients.

Fixed a few things that looked wrong to me, and the one that is definately wrong was the final sentence in this paragraph... but overrall pretty good

While conducting research on an one of these incubators, X-Corps scientists found further evidence that Ventriculant tissue is the initial factor in alien cloning, as the Ventriculant Autopsy report suggests. There was somewere some traces of Ventriculant tissue in the fluid, but not on the fetus. Upon closer investigation, younger fetuses had a higher Ventriculant to non-Ventriculant tissue ratio than older ones fetuses, strongly implying that Alien clones undergo a metamorphosis from Ventriculant tissue during their development. In order to produce a whole organism with different cell types, the aliens probably inject Ventriculant cells with different DNA strings, an “in vitro” procedure, which make the cells transform into various body parts, for example vital organs and skin. They are obviously able to use this method to create fully functional embryonic cell clusters that can grow into fetuses. Inside the incubators, fetuses have the energy, nutrients and growth-safe environment they need, indispensable premises for their complete and successful transformation. Hence, we nicknamed the whole room "Nursery Chamber".

I bolded Initial above as it doesn't look like the right word to me....



Aliens do not appear to be grown on the ships, as the Incubators are securely and hermetically sealed to prevent contamination from outside factors. In addition, nursery chambers do not appear to have the equipment needed to either start or complete fetus growth, suggesting that they are only used to transport developing Alien fetuses to a more secure location to complete their growth, possibly to established Alien bases on Earth. perhaps to a safer and more established area on Earth itself.

that final sentence should be replaced i think...

Based on the assumption that rapid growth of mature tissue is meaningless without an equally fast method of mental development since an orthodox education regimen would take at least months, if not years, to complete, we investigated further in order to discover how the Aliens are able to accomplish this feat. Alas, we haven’t managed to solve this mystery. Maybe the answer lies in various small devices located inside the incubators. Unfortunately, by the time we try to remove them from the incubator, they appear to break down, preventing us from conducting research on them.

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Since we are unable to observe the wholeentire cloning procedure, we are unsure as to whether it is cost and time efficient. Yet, we strongly believe that this procedure is utilised as a factory-line system and the Alien invaders are able to generate the various alien clones they need (soldiers, scientists, pilots, engineers etc) in an accelerated time frame. Many scientific and military agents suggested that further research should be conducted in order to create the needed technology which will help us clone humans by utilising these nursery chambers. Alas, this idea was proven to be impossible to materialize. Setting ethical and practical issues aside, we face a yet unsolvable issue, despite our thorough scientific investigation. Attempts to integrate Ventriculant tissue with human DNA have been futile, as the cells stay idle. To understand why this is, we would probably need a lot more time than we have. We are confident, though, that after the war we will be able to answer this question.

I left a probably here, simply because i don't think another "most likely" would look very good...

"Oh, so it's just cloning, not anything else? Why'd you call it 'alien breeding' then? Damn, I thought I could create a new kind of porn-perversion, xenophilia...
- Scientist Tommy J. Fork, nicknamed "The Pervert"

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I think that Probably isn't a very scientific word, what do you think

I overral like this though....

I think i did pretty well for my first time breaking a major topic up in a while :D
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Posted 22 August 2005 - 04:26 PM

Answering to your comments:
1) Maybe the transition to the second paragraph is a bit rough. Anyway, I think it is a nice and accurate introduction. And, probably saves us from a lot of trouble and misunderstandings

2)
a: I prefer "X-Corps has" to "X-Corps soldiers have" :(:(:(
b: "best and", good
c: is "continuous" really necessary? Would a Xenium reactor supply energy in the form of pulses, of energy bursts? I don't think so :huh?:
d: isn't medicals right? :sorry:

3)
a: "one of these" sounds much better, ty :)
b: "there were traces of" is better, remove some
c: English grammar orders me... if I mention a noun twice, the 2nd time it must be "one". "Would you like the red tomatoes or the green ones?"
d: initial -> primary, nice catch, although it should be left to proofreading ;)

4)
a: I would say "on ships", in general
b: hmmm, established area... At first I found it silly, but now I think you changed it in order not to have problems in case the player doesn't know about Alien bases, great :)

5) Thank you :)

6) Reasonably, with no doubt... Assumably maybe...

ALIEN BREEDING
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Alien/Research/Alien Breeding

In order to fully appraise the true threat of the Alien species and understand the
very nature of the Alien invasion, we must first comprehend the alien species themselves. Understanding more about Alien physiology, anatomy, and reproduction will probably aid us in this endeavor.

During battlefield operations, X-Corps’ soldiers have salvaged equipment that appears to be intricately tied to the aliens' life cycle. Most of this equipment was installed in special rooms and connected to each other in a network pattern. Among them there were some special devices which can best and only be described as incubators. These incubators contained a nutrient-rich artificial amniotic fluid in which fetuses in various stages of development were suspended. The liquid appears to facilitate the growth of the embryo inside. Cybernetic consoles assist in monitoring the embryos and ensure their proper development. The energy for their operation needs to be provided by an outside, continuous power source. In addition, incubators have a special conditioning system which keeps the temperature at a constant 314 Kelvin. Last but not least, two cylindrical receptors are located in one side of the incubator. Vials salvaged from the room fit these receptors perfectly. They are probably used for administration of medicines and nutrients.

While conducting research on an one of these incubators, X-Corps scientists found further evidence that Ventriculant tissue is the primary factor in alien cloning, as the Ventriculant Autopsy report suggests. There were traces of Ventriculant tissue in the fluid, but not on the fetus. Upon closer investigation, younger fetuses had a higher Ventriculant to non-Ventriculant tissue ratio than older ones, strongly implying that Alien clones undergo a metamorphosis from Ventriculant tissue during their development. In order to produce a whole organism with different cell types, the aliens probably inject Ventriculant cells with different DNA strings, an “in vitro” procedure, which make the cells transform into various body parts, for example vital organs and skin. They are obviously able to use this method to create fully functional embryonic cell clusters that can grow into fetuses. Inside the incubators, fetuses have the energy, nutrients and growth-safe environment they need, indispensable premises for their complete and successful transformation. Hence, we nicknamed the whole room "Nursery Chamber".

Aliens do not appear to be grown on ships, as the Incubators are securely and hermetically sealed to prevent contamination from outside factors. In addition, nursery chambers do not appear to have the equipment needed to either start or complete fetus growth, suggesting that they are only used to transport developing Alien fetuses to a more secure location to complete their growth, perhaps to a safer and more established area on Earth itself.

Based on the assumption that rapid growth of mature tissue is meaningless without an equally fast method of mental development since an orthodox education regimen would take at least months, if not years, to complete, we investigated further in order to discover how the Aliens are able to accomplish this feat. Alas, we haven’t managed to solve this mystery. Maybe the answer lies in various small devices located inside the incubators. Unfortunately, by the time we try to remove them from the incubator, they appear to break down, preventing us from conducting research on them.

Since we are unable to observe the entire cloning procedure, we are unsure as to whether it is cost and time efficient. Yet, we strongly believe that this procedure is utilised as a factory-line system and the Alien invaders are able to generate the various alien clones they need (soldiers, scientists, pilots, engineers etc) in an accelerated time frame. Many scientific and military agents suggested that further research should be conducted in order to create the needed technology which will help us clone humans by utilising these nursery chambers. Alas, this idea was proven to be impossible to materialize. Setting ethical and practical issues aside, we face a yet unsolvable issue, despite our thorough scientific investigation. Attempts to integrate Ventriculant tissue with human DNA have been futile, as the cells stay idle. To understand why this is, we would probably need a lot more time than we have. We are confident, though, that after the war we will be able to answer this question.

"Oh, so it's just cloning, not anything else? Why'd you call it 'alien breeding' then? Damn, I thought I could create a new kind of porn-perversion, xenophilia...
- Scientist Tommy J. Fork, nicknamed "The Pervert"


Nice try pal! =b

Edited by kafros, 22 August 2005 - 04:28 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2005 - 03:47 PM

Az, should we ship it? I just can't wait, I'm gonna cry :sorry:

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 03:52 PM

well, i don't particularly feel like looking at it, i have a game in a little while so breaking it down will take too much time
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Useful comment: "The second paragraph reads funny, maybe you should rewrite it into something like..."
Less useful comment: "I don't like the second paragraph"
Completely useful comment: "well, i don't particularly feel like looking at it, i have a game in a little while so breaking it down will take too much time" :P Sorry blehm, but if you are not going to read or comment on it, please don't post somethign like that :)

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fixed the mess the forum software made. :)

ALIEN BREEDING
X-Net://Pegasus.net/Alien/Research/Alien Breeding

In order to fully appraise the true threat of the Alien species and understand the
very nature of the Alien invasion, we must first comprehend the alien species themselves. Understanding more about Alien physiology, anatomy, and reproduction will probably aid us in this endeavor.

During battlefield operations, X-Corps' soldiers have salvaged equipment that appears to be intricately tied to the aliens' life cycle. Most of this equipment was installed in special rooms and connected to each other in a network pattern. Among them there were some special devices which can best and only be described as incubators. These incubators contained a nutrient-rich artificial amniotic fluid in which fetuses in various stages of development were suspended. The liquid appears to facilitate the growth of the embryo inside. Cybernetic consoles assist in monitoring the embryos and ensure their proper development. The energy for their operation needs to be provided by an outside, continuous power source. In addition, incubators have a special conditioning system which keeps the temperature at a constant 314 Kelvin. Last but not least, two cylindrical receptors are located in one side of the incubator. Vials salvaged from the room fit these receptors perfectly. They are probably used for administration of medicines and nutrients.

While conducting research on an one of these incubators, X-Corps scientists found further evidence that Ventriculant tissue is the primary factor in alien cloning, as the Ventriculant Autopsy report suggests. There were traces of Ventriculant tissue in the fluid, but not on the fetus. Upon closer investigation, younger fetuses had a higher Ventriculant to non-Ventriculant tissue ratio than older ones, strongly implying that Alien clones undergo a metamorphosis from Ventriculant tissue during their development. In order to produce a whole organism with different cell types, the aliens probably inject Ventriculant cells with different DNA strings, an in vitro? procedure, which make the cells transform into various body parts, for example vital organs and skin. They are obviously able to use this method to create fully functional embryonic cell clusters that can grow into fetuses. Inside the incubators, fetuses have the energy, nutrients and growth-safe environment they need, indispensable premises for their complete and successful transformation. Hence, we nicknamed the whole room "Nursery Chamber".

Aliens do not appear to be grown on ships, as the Incubators are securely and hermetically sealed to prevent contamination from outside factors. In addition, nursery chambers do not appear to have the equipment needed to either start or complete fetus growth, suggesting that they are only used to transport developing Alien fetuses to a more secure location to complete their growth, perhaps to a safer and more established area on Earth itself.

Based on the assumption that rapid growth of mature tissue is meaningless without an equally fast method of mental development since an orthodox education regimen would take at least months, if not years, to complete, we investigated further in order to discover how the Aliens are able to accomplish this feat. Alas, we haven't managed to solve this mystery. Maybe the answer lies in various small devices located inside the incubators. Unfortunately, by the time we try to remove them from the incubator, they appear to break down, preventing us from conducting research on them.

Since we are unable to observe the entire cloning procedure, we are unsure as to whether it is cost and time efficient. Yet, we strongly believe that this procedure is utilised as a factory-line system and the Alien invaders are able to generate the various alien clones they need (soldiers, scientists, pilots, engineers etc) in an accelerated time frame. Many scientific and military agents suggested that further research should be conducted in order to create the needed technology which will help us clone humans by utilising these nursery chambers. Alas, this idea was proven to be impossible to materialize. Setting ethical and practical issues aside, we face a yet unsolvable issue, despite our thorough scientific investigation. Attempts to integrate Ventriculant tissue with human DNA have been futile, as the cells stay idle. To understand why this is, we would probably need a lot more time than we have. We are confident, though, that after the war we will be able to answer this question.

"Oh, so it's just cloning, not anything else? Why'd you call it 'alien breeding' then? Damn, I thought I could create a new kind of porn-perversion, xenophilia...
- Scientist Tommy J. Fork, nicknamed "The Pervert"


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