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#1 Sectopod

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 02:54 PM

[ACESSING ALIEN AINCIENT HISTORY/X-NET/OVERMIND/HIERARCY/ANCIENT HISTORY]

A question has always puzzled us, that where do the Aliens come from? They did originate from Mars we would have gathered, but Mars is mearly an outpost.. Sent to watch us.. then proceed in it's horrific culling once our population had reached the eptimome of our reproduction.

6 Billion souls.. herded for so long.. but these minds began to fight back, in doing so, we had interrogated many species, and creatures twisted than the human brain could imagine.

Through doing so, we have established some of the aincient origins of the Aliens themselves.

Our galaxy contained an alien species, the late long ancestors of the Greys. These Greys were a peaceful race, who were eager to learn, and if we were there back 2 million years ago, we would have made the best of freinds. The Greys began to create technological wonders to overcome their weak physiology, and they were prosperous, developing ships, mining the local asteroids, and even colonising the nearest moon. Some Greys however, began to show a flare in psionics. They could talk to people through their minds, without the use of technological instruments, from one corner of the planet to the other. These Greys soon mastered the use of psychic talking, being able to litterally speak without moving their mouths.

However, one sect was opposed to this use of psychic power, and their name has been lost through time. They captured stolen military items, and created a hidden base on a nearby asteroid. The psychic power was a timebomb.. they knew, but no other part of society would listen to them.

Seeking more power to fuel the fire and to make them masters of the physical world through their minds, the Greys created a organic brain which would amplify the power of the Greys tenfold. When the organic brain was complete, it was completely subservient to the Greys, and amplifying their power so that they could achieve.. more. Complete psychic pleasure thought up in a nanosecond was there, networks of Greys could talk to each other, conveying thoughts and emotions within seconds, becoming the new language, some who were particulary gifted to mastermind these feats, could walk on air itself. However.. there was a backlash that ended the Grey's culture forever.

The negative emotions, fear, evil, hate, greed, all of the sins, and even nightmares were fed directly to the organic brain. The organic brain.. wanted more, it wanted dominance, it wanted to enslave, destroy, mutate.. all of these emotions fueled by billions of Greys fell right into this massive amplifier. Following the network of Greys, it became.. self aware. And as it did so, it controlled the entire Gray race, dooming them to enslavement to the "Overmind". The scream of billions as their free will as taken away from them began the signal of the renegade Grays.

The renegade Grays knew they were too late. And instantaneously, the former Gray sector fleet began to head to the renegade Gray's asteroid station.

They knew they were done for. However, the renegade Grays developed a new technology... never seen before, as the former Grays chose psionics, it was ultimatley the renegade Grays who had the upper hand. Bowing their heads down in the ultimate shame of their race, they launched a missle directly to their sun. The Overmind having calculated this, began to fear for itself. The Overmind, boarded the next former Gray flagship.

What happened now could have changed the course of X-Corp's history forever. The Grey Flagship, proceeded to go to warp as soon as they cleared the solar system. While this was taking place, the Overmind ordered that the missle be stopped at all costs before it reached the sun. The renegade Grays lept into action, with it's supreme phased cannon arrays taking out thousands of the ships, but the Overmind had more.. The renegade Gray's began the most saddest sacrifice to their race that noone could have comprehended. They were determined to defend the missle.

As the battle raged on, the Overmind had failed. The renegade Grays bowed in triumph as the missle crashed into the sun, forcing a supernova on a solar system scale. The Overmind, in his flagship, was starting the hyperjump systems which had taken the whole battle to start up. He began the hyperjump, but too late, as the massive shockwave blasted his ship, sending it lightyears across the galaxy.

Through hyperspace, the laws of physics crushed the ship in half, and it fell out of hyperspace completely. The Overmind's location was was unknown.

The Overmind is fueled by hatred and negative emotion. He knows how to build and replicate his old technology. He mearly replicates 2 million year old weaponry stored in his design, craving more domination. (Hes like the Borg. He sucks up information from other races, and adds it to his own. He cannot develop it. This is why the Humans have an adavantage to him.. we can learn.)

Now, where did this other half of the ship land?

The other half of the ship fell through our solar system and crashed into our blue planet killing the dominant species, the Dinosaurs. It is speculated that the Overmind found many other races, and submitted them in his hierarchy, while rebuilding and mutating them at the same time while looking for his other half of the ship, which supposedly contained something of superior value, until he found us. Mars was set up as the base of operations for his invasion.

(Edit: This topic is moved to: http://www.xcomufo.c...opic=6432&st=35 if you wish to talk it there. This may be moved to alien containment.)

Edited by Chmmr, 01 June 2005 - 04:42 PM.


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Posted 01 June 2005 - 03:05 PM

Hmm, I'll read it in detail, but I wanted to point out that this is started already at
http://www.xcomufo.c...ndpost&p=104549
You can try to improve the original story and add some of your own, but again, make sure it's not already started.
If you want to know which text is where, use the following link:
http://docs.projectx.../CTD:Asset_List
Please, if you decide to do something, start with something like: "Azrael asked me in a PM to start writing the text for...Tank/Gas Cannon" or something similar, so I'll know why you're doing this.
Or at least.....

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 03:50 PM

Hmm, I'll read it in detail, but I wanted to point out that this is started already at
http://www.xcomufo.c...ndpost&p=104549
You can try to improve the original story and add some of your own, but again, make sure it's not already started.
If you want to know which text is where, use the following link:
http://docs.projectx.../CTD:Asset_List
Please, if you decide to do something, start with something like: "Azrael asked me in a PM to start writing the text for...Tank/Gas Cannon" or something similar, so I'll know why you're doing this.
Or at least.....

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What if we gathered the 2 stories together then did a people's opinion on it? Plus, this is how the TFTD aliens get seperated from the Overmind, and it all started at the beginning. What was in that other half that the Overmind is looking for? :) Also, the aliens are connected to the same network (the one that the Overmind took over). As he assimilated other races, he sucked them into his psychic influence. Humans have different psyche compared to the Overmind, so they cannot be brought in it's influence.

And I asked Azarel twice in a PM for stuff no reply :s

(Edit: This topic is moved to:
Edit by Azrael: copied text was deleted in tzuchan's thread.

Edited by Azrael, 02 June 2005 - 07:17 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2005 - 07:13 PM

There are about 3 or 4 (probably more) Xenocide backstories, there is no official one yet, I'll take care of that as soon as possible. Sorry for not answering PMs, I haven't been around these past two days. Looks good, will read it carefully when I have the time :)

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Posted 10 June 2005 - 11:27 AM

Hi Chmmr! Nice to see other people who know about Star Control 2, although I personally liked the Thraddash best. ;)

Anyway, I see you have a strong desire to write; I have a strong desire to proofread, if you haven't noticed already, but I'll just start off with some general comments. :P Comments are in green. Edit- oops, no they aren't :P

Paragraph 1: "then proceed in it's horrific culling once our population had reached the eptimome of our reproduction": Why are the Aliens doing this? I may have missed it in the text, but I didn't see much detailing the Overmind's motives.

Paragraph 2: "6 Billion souls.. herded for so long"? Are you referring to the human race? If so, it sounds a bit strange because it sort of implies that 1) there have always been 6 billion of us, and that the same 6 billion have been "herded" ever since the Aliens came- both of which aren't quite true.

The "organic brain" that would eventually become the Overmind: how did the Greys create it? This is some really advanced bioengineering! Though it's possible that they have the technical know-how, there's nothing else in the text that suggests this. Maybe explain the abilities of the the Grey race somewhere sooner?

Overall, the text focuses primarily on the Grays (which is fine), but there's no mention at all of any of the other races. When/where were they become the Overmind's minions?

This is just a random thought that came unbidden:
An interesting idea might be that they are all nightmarish creations of the Greys, twisted by the "hatred and negative emotions" of the Overmind. Perhaps there are no "other races, per se: the Overmind directs the Greys to create them in the face of resistance on Earth. Hm, perhaps the Aliens are new arrivals (fleeing another threat, maybe?) , not ancient enemies? In other words, the Aliens are researching biotechnology and regular technology as the game progresses, which explains why new races only appear later, and why big battleships aren't flying around at the start of the game. This might make for an interesting two-person scenario... but I'm really getting off topic. Sorry!

Anyway, now that I think about it, if the Greys had the ability to make "supreme phased cannon arrays" and a star-buster missile... why/how did they lose all this when the Overmind took over? Why come after humans with plasma pistols, when they should have vastly superior technology? The disparity of their former glory to their mind-controlled depths is rather striking... but perhaps that's the tragedy of the situation? If so, you should explain how so much knowledge/technology was lost. If not, maybe make the Greys less technologically advanced.

Another thing that I'm wondering about is how the X-Corps were able to circumvent the Overmind's control and discover all this. Naturally, this is backstory, so it need not be discovered by X-Corps scientists, but in the beginning of the text, the narrator pretty much implies that we, as humans, have pieced all of this together.

Well, I think I'll stop here for now (I slept terribly last night and I hope my post is coherent). The text makes a valiant attempt at explaining the backstory of the Aliens, but imho, some work and more explaining are necessary.

-Asty

Edited by Astyanax, 10 June 2005 - 04:30 PM.

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Posted 10 June 2005 - 02:12 PM

As Azrael said, we have some clues of the backstory (like the overmind ability to control other species and that), but we dont have an "Official" History about that... with those constrains you can write your backstory and we will choose later the one that fits the best for The Story of Xenocide Aliens.

Please Azrael, can your team write a simple list in the Wiki of the "Already known facts" about the aliens so everybody can write based on that. BTW I want to personally oversee it before publication.

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Posted 24 June 2005 - 04:33 PM

Hi Chmmr!  Nice to see other people who know about Star Control 2, although I personally liked the Thraddash best. ;)

:P

Anyway, I see you have a strong desire to write; I have a strong desire to proofread, if you haven't noticed already, but I'll just start off with some general comments. :P  Comments are in green. Edit- oops, no they aren't :P

Paragraph 2: "6 Billion souls.. herded for so long"? Are you referring to the human race?  If so, it sounds a bit strange because it sort of implies that 1) there have always been 6 billion of us, and that the same 6 billion have been "herded" ever since the Aliens came- both of which aren't quite true.

I think this paragraph needs a work on :)

The "organic brain" that would eventually become the Overmind: how did the Greys create it?  This is some really advanced bioengineering!  Though it's possible that they have the technical know-how, there's nothing else in the text that suggests this.  Maybe explain the abilities of the the Grey race somewhere sooner?

The Greys made the Overmind, they focused in Bio-tech and Psionics, the renegades focused on power technology, the old Grey tradition.


Overall, the text focuses primarily on the Grays (which is fine), but there's no mention at all of any of the other races.  When/where were they become the Overmind's minions? 

They became the Overmind's minions when the other half of the ship came out of Hyperspace, in an unknown part of the galaxy. They then began their crusade of finding the other part of the ship, which contained something of great importance (bad guy in TFTD thing). Through this, they had no hyperspace, so for 2 million years they travelled across the quadrant, eventually to Earth. The Overmind doesn't care to wait.. it just wants the other part of himself so he can be complete. Through this, he took over races like the Vipers, Morlocks, etc. You could say he ran into the Vaiish too (which would be an excellent point to start a war :) )


This is just a random thought that came unbidden:
An interesting idea might be that they are all nightmarish creations of the Greys, twisted by the "hatred and negative emotions" of the Overmind.  Perhaps there are no "other races, per se: the Overmind directs the Greys to create them in the face of resistance on Earth.  Hm, perhaps the Aliens are new arrivals (fleeing another threat, maybe?) , not ancient enemies?  In other words, the Aliens are researching biotechnology and regular technology as the game progresses, which explains why new races only appear later, and why big battleships aren't flying around at the start of the game.  This might make for an interesting two-person scenario... but I'm really getting off topic.  Sorry!

Maybe.. after the Overmind takes humans he uses their potential. I.e., take civilians, and make them do the research for the Overmind? (after being lethally injected with all the knowledge). There could be something special about humans that makes him want this, becuase he can't do it with grays.. thats why he wants to enslave and not destroy, and take the underwater thing too. It may be good that the monsters are nightmares of the Overmind too :)


Anyway, now that I think about it, if the Greys had the ability to make "supreme phased cannon arrays" and a star-buster missile... why/how did they lose all this when the Overmind took over?  Why come after humans with plasma pistols, when they should have vastly superior technology?  The disparity of their former glory to their mind-controlled depths is rather striking... but perhaps that's the tragedy of the situation?  If so, you should explain how so much knowledge/technology was lost.  If not, maybe make the Greys less technologically advanced.

Overmind only knows the greys he took over, no renegades bowed towards the study of Psionics so the renegades took the upper hand. Their Phased cannon tech was lost when they made the ultimate sacrifice. What i'm saying is that the former grays became more relaxed in their technologies, only using plasma, while renegades took it further and made phased cannons. When the renegades died, all the super tech was lost with them, and the Overmind cannot research the tech anymore, he only learns what he has from the beings he takes over.


Another thing that I'm wondering about is how the X-Corps were able to circumvent the Overmind's control and discover all this.  Naturally, this is backstory, so it need not be discovered by X-Corps scientists, but in the beginning of the text, the narrator pretty much implies that we, as humans, have pieced all of this together.

:)

Well, I think I'll stop here for now (I slept terribly last night and I hope my post is coherent).  The text makes a valiant attempt at explaining the backstory of the Aliens, but imho, some work and more explaining are necessary.

-Asty

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Edited by Chmmr, 24 June 2005 - 04:38 PM.